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Re: [Networker] User file deletions between incrementals

2009-10-30 11:12:41
Subject: Re: [Networker] User file deletions between incrementals
From: George Sinclair <George.Sinclair AT NOAA DOT GOV>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:04:33 -0400
Mathew Harvest wrote:
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Subject: Re: [Networker] User file deletions between incrementals

On 30/10/2009, at 07:59 , George Sinclair wrote:

Dag Nygren wrote:
torsdag 29 oktober 2009 01:59:26 skrev  A Darren Dunham:
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 05:59:06PM -0400, George Sinclair wrote:
Hmm ... I was always under the impression that this was not the case, at
least not with a browsable recover. I thought the whole point of a
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status time updated. NW incrementals back up files based on change of file status time since the last incremental. Fulls of course get everything.
Actually, that's not quite the reason in NetWorker.

In NetWorker it was a "by choice" design feature - only the directory had changed, not the files in the directory, so only the directory got

backed up.

This was known to be confusing for some time, and in NetWorker 7.5 they introduced the client attribute "Backup renamed directives" ... it's unchecked/disabled by default, but when checked/enabled, if a directory is moved or renamed, then NetWorker will backup the contents

as well as the directory.

The old behaviour was for Windows as well as Unix, as is the above change.


The only problem with this behaviour is that if a directory gets
renamed/moved and only the directory gets backed up/no record of its
containing files, when you perform a restore of that directory only
files that have changed will be recovered, not the entire directory, to
recover the files that have not changed you have to browse to a time
before the rename find them in the old directory name (this behaviour is
present in windows not sure about other OS's, but I suspect so) - but as
Preston said there is a workaround in 7.5.1, and they were supposed to
be completely re-writing the file broker for 8.0 but who knows when that
will arrive - perhaps its in the upcoming 7.6 release ...

That's a nice feature - having the option to implement on a per client basis, anyway. Just hope that someone doesn't go out and move 10 TB of data to another directory without letting you know in advance!!! Of course, the same thing could happen in previous releases wherein someone changes the permissions on 10 TB of data, affecting a change of file status times - the default action for initiating incrementals.

However, on a related or rather earlier note, let's suppose I remove a file after it's been backed up. My understanding of the client index is that NW should update the index to reflect that the file has been removed, and I'm pretty sure this is the case even with older 7.2.x releases. So, if the file is backed up, removed and a subsequent incremental is run, and you browse to that date/time, you shouldn't see the file. The problem with this, however, is that this information is only recorded in the index, so as long as you're running incrementals, the information will remain in the index, but at some point won't it go away, or will it only get truncated when another full is run?

George


Cheers,

Preston.
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