Re: [Networker] Avamar

Hey Frances/Alec,

But the virtual server licensing doesn't address resource contention
issues that happens with backups in a virtual environment?  How are you
planning to get around that?

Thanks!

Joel

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Subject: Re: [Networker] Avamar

Hey Joel,

That's the same plan the EMC sales force told me about -- but that means
you now have paid for 
the AVAMAR solution and also have to pay for a NetWorker client license
for each one of your 
guests.  Hence I'm in agreement with Alec.  As I need to expand the
licenses to cover my 
guests, I'm going to be switching to the Virtual Server license model --
because I have to run 
the NetWorker client on each guest anyway with the current EMC dedupe
product (so I can get a 
off-site clone copy on tape per requirements).

Frank

On 7/1/09 10:13 AM, Joel Fisher wrote:
> Hey Siobhan,
> 
> My thinking for the lack of tape out, is that I would just run one
> backup a month to regular tape.  That fits well with how we do it now.
> Is that still feasible with avamar?
> 
> Thank you for your response.
> 
> Joel
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
On
> Behalf Of Siobhan Ellis
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 4:57 AM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [Networker] Avamar
> 
> It works
> It's good for virtual environments
> It has no tape out facility worth speaking about... so think about
your
> retention periods.
> 
> Siobhan Ellis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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On
> Behalf Of Joel Fisher
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 6:54 AM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: [Networker] Avamar
> 
> Hey Guys,
> 
>  
> 
> We are getting ready to ink the deal on a big VMware environment, but
> the outstanding issue is still... how do we back it all up.
> 
>  
> 
> To protect the VMDKs we are planning on doing snapshots and
replication
> within  our storage arrays.  But the problem is that we have a
> requirement to provide file level restore capability, and we don't
want
> to spend hours of admin time mounting VMDK snapshots and restoring
> individual files. 
> 
>  
> 
> Conceptually, avamar seems like the "perfect" backup solution for a
> VMware environment.  Global dedup, minimize server resources used for
> the backup, etc...  But I've never used it, so can someone who has had
> some hands on experience give me some insight on whether it really
> works, and what the draw backs are.  How well does it tie into
> networker.  We are currently 7.4.4(with lots of patches)
> 
>  
> 
> Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
>  
> 
> As far as scale goes... we will probably top out at 600-700 guests
> factoring in some creep.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Joel
> 
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