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Re: [Networker] EDL with Embedded Networker Storage Node

2008-09-10 14:54:30
Subject: Re: [Networker] EDL with Embedded Networker Storage Node
From: Curtis Preston <cpreston AT GLASSHOUSE DOT COM>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:51:29 -0400
Is that the same as getting root for your embedded storage node? Surely it is?



Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection  
GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.
 
T: +1 760 710 2004 |  C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009  
cpreston AT glasshouse DOT com |  www.glasshouse.com
Infrastructure :: Optimized

-----Original Message-----
From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On 
Behalf Of James Pratt
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] EDL with Embedded Networker Storage Node

They gave us root for our two DL210 EDL's. I don't see why they wouldn't. You 
bought them, no? 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
> On Behalf Of Curtis Preston
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:24 PM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [Networker] EDL with Embedded Networker Storage Node
> 
> So EMC won't give you the root password to the system that you bought.  That
> just sounds seriously screwed up to me.
> 
> I've needed convincing that an embedded storage node is a good idea.  This 
> isn't
> helping.  In fact, it would be a show stopper for me.
> 
> Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection
> GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.
> 
> T: +1 760 710 2004 |  C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009
> cpreston AT glasshouse DOT com |  www.glasshouse.com
> Infrastructure :: Optimized
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
> On Behalf Of brerrabbit
> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:06 PM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: [Networker] EDL with Embedded Networker Storage Node
> 
> Bruce Breidall wrote:
> > There is a web based java gui to manage the CDL/EDL. Should have been
> > installed with the units. Very good application.
> >
> 
> 
> I agree, there is a very good GUI application to manage the EDL, but what's
> missing is a good way to manage the embedded storage node.  For example, if I
> want to run an inquire command to get a listing of the scsi devices, serial 
> numbers,
> etc visible to the storage node, or if I'm troubleshooting drive behavior 
> with mt, I
> have to have EMC support open an ssh session and have *them* login as root, as
> they will not hand out that password.  I've heard, and we are trying to get 
> this set
> up at our site, that if you ask your TC nicely, he/she can have someone from 
> EMC
> set up a non-root linux user that has permission to run some of the commands 
> like
> inquire from the linux environment/embedded storage node.
> 
> This is one of the few medium grade annoyances I have with the EDL.  Another 
> one
> is that, while there is a command-line interface to generate reports about 
> the EDL
> utilization, you have to log in to the GUI to get them.  In a large 
> environment I
> want to script and schedule that and can't because of a design oversite.
> 
> One other comment about using the embedded storage node and cloning.
> Assuming that a) your environment uses a shared-storage node to backup up to
> the VTL and b) your budget allows for the licenses, I strongly recommend that 
> you
> zone the shared storage node to also see the physical tape library, i.e. the
> embedded storage can see the VTL and the physical library and so can the 
> shared
> storage node.  The reason for this is that, in the event that you have a 
> connectivity
> problem between the ESN and the PTL, you can clone from the shared storage
> node.  Clones from the shared storage node may not happen as quickly, but the
> added flexibility is well worth the minor cost. (Yes, we learned this the hard
> way!)......
> 
> HTH
> -brerrabbit
> 
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