Unfortunatly, what an EMC engineer says and what reality are do not
always coincide. ;) I hope that is the official answer, as most I know
do not want to be forced to buy the license just because they "changed
their tape drive vendor," in their view.
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W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies
-----Original Message-----
From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On
Behalf Of Rick Brode
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:25 PM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] new to Virtual Tape Library - what are the
benefits?
While attending a NW 7.4 pre-release training session in the spring, the
EMC engineer stated specifically that existing autochanger licenses
would still be valid.
Curtis Preston wrote:
>The question is a very important one. Are you REQUIRED to buy the VTL
>license (even if you have valid tape drive licenses?), or are you
>ALLOWED to buy the VTL license if you want the extra VTL functionality?
>Symantec has gone the former, not the latter (me not happy), so it will
>be interesting to see what EMC does.
>
>---
>W. Curtis Preston
>Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
>VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
On
>Behalf Of Joel Fisher
>Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:47 AM
>To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
>Subject: Re: [Networker] new to Virtual Tape Library - what are the
>benefits?
>
>I was a bit rash in making this judgment... there are some added
>benefits of the VTL license. Particularly being able to access
>multiple(starts with 3) VTL instances on one VTL 'frame' with one
>license. Sorry EMC.
>
>Extracting foot from mouth.
>
>I'm assuming an autochange license will still work with a VTL in 7.4,
>anyone tested this? We may have to do this until I can budget for a
VTL
>license. But I hate to be unable to upgrade because of this.
>
>Joel
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joel Fisher
>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 2:03 PM
>To: 'EMC NetWorker discussion'; 'Stuart Whitby'
>Subject: RE: [Networker] new to Virtual Tape Library - what are the
>benefits?
>
>Anyone know how Networker even knows it's a VTL and it's physical disk
>capacity? All the VTLs I've seen all emulate a known silo/autochanger.
>This is really aggravating that EMC is tacking on a new charge without
>adding any functionality.
>
>Joel
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
On
>Behalf Of Stuart Whitby
>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 10:00 AM
>To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
>Subject: Re: [Networker] new to Virtual Tape Library - what are the
>benefits?
>
>Depending on the VTL involved, it will manage the cloning of data to
>physical tape. If this is license-free, then it may be better to do
>this than to involve NetWorker, which will require a further jukebox
>license to cover this. The way it works on a CDL is that the CDL
>controls the physical library, and will load tapes and route the data
to
>NetWorker that way. Or so I believe - didn't have physical libraries
on
>my last job :)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Stuart.
>
>________________________________
>
>From: EMC NetWorker discussion on behalf of mark wragge
>Sent: Thu 16/08/2007 11:39
>To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
>Subject: Re: [Networker] new to Virtual Tape Library - what are the
>benefits?
>
>
>
>Does this mean that there is a way to stage data from a VTL to physical
>tape? Is this controlled from networker administrator staging OR from
>the VTL administration software?
>
> At the moment we are cloning from VTL to physical and then
re-labeling
>the VTL tape to free up space. is there a better way requiring less
>manul intervention to free up disk space (assuming that retention
>periods cannot be changed).
>
> Thanks again for all these tips.
>
>Dag Nygren <dag AT NEWTECH DOT FI> wrote:
> > Essentially you can get disk to disk backup speeds, and can do
>dynamic drive
>
>
>>sharing. Of course, you do loose the ability to read and write at the
>>
>>
>same
>
>
>>time, that you get from an advanced file type device.
>>
>>
>
>If you are into staging savesets around, you will also not free up
space
>until all the savesets on the tape have been staged...
>
>I personally think that it is better to invest in more space for your
>ATFD
>
>Best
>Dag
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