backup wrote:
It looks to me like you should use the example of the legato manual
<< /0/exports/ >>
+null: .?* *
<</0/exports/data(exception) >>
ignore
This will null all directories below exports except
0/exports/data(exception)
and I have a feeling in your case those are way less than the number of
folders that need to be nullified.
Thanks! Actually, we have about ten folders under /0/exports that need
to be nullified and only a few that don't.
These could change at any time, so they need to be on the backups, but
they're handled by a special pool. Another
pool takes care of anything else that might get created under /0 (there
is some stuff under there but not much), including
other stuff under /0/exports that's outside the purview of these
folders. Based on your suggestion, I would need 10 exception
and ignore lines and one main line and accompanying '+null' line for a
total of 22 lines to handle the stuff under /0/exports.
Currently, I'm just specifying '+null' for each of the 10 paths so I
have 20 lines to handle /0/exports, but my server side directive
also includes entries for the other file system paths like
/1/exports/dir1 ... dir5, etc., so it's much longer.
Question: Were you suggesting that the directive would be created on the
client or server? If the server then it would be 2 lines longer
than what I'm doing now. If the client, then it would certainly be much
shorter. Would it be put under /0/exports?
I'm not opposed to using this method. That seems pretty slick, actually.
I just want to avoid running into any length problems with directives,
either on the client or server. If I understand this correctly, doing
this on the client seems like it would allow me to break those up into
separate directives wherein each directive would be under its respective
file system like /1/exports/.nsr, /2/exports/.nsr, etc. and each would be
shorter than the current combined server directive and would look like
what you showed.
Question: Does that sound right?
Question: If I use your sample directive as a client side directive what
will prevent the NSR client resource that handles the other stuff
from hitting the exceptions?
Does NW simply say that unless the named save set matches this name then
null it? So, in the case of the client resource that specifies 'All',
it would null everything since this one is gonna back up the /0 file
system, but in the case of the other resource that lists specific paths
like /0/exports/data1,
it will hit those since those names match the ignore lines? I just want
to make sure that the directive I use forces the resource that
handles 'All' to not back up the specified paths, but still allows it to
get everything else under the parent file system, and the resource that
handles the specific named paths won't be hampered by the directive.
Question: Just out of curiosity, what if I used something like
/0/exports/.nsr:
+null: data1
+null: data2
+null: data3
When the resource runs that uses 'All' would it null this stuff, but the
one that specifies paths further down (like /0/exports/data2)
would still back those up since the .nsr file is above that level?
George
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Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 9:43 PM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: [Networker] Need help and advice on directives
Hi,
I have a question on server side versus client side directives. We have
a server side directive for a Unix client, but it's getting fairly long
and unwieldy. Declaring these on the server side seems to have the
advantage in that it's easier to maintain since you only have to look in
once place, so it's more centralized. Makes sense when you have several
directories that need to be skipped or nulled for a given client, *BUT*
I have heard that when a directive gets too long it can cause problems.
Not sure if this is still the case, however. Maybe this was only true in
older releases? We're using NW 7.2.2 on our Solaris primary backup
server. I'm concerned about this because the paths that need to be
nulled only continues to grow for this client so I was thinking to
switch to client side directives to avoid any possible issues.
Here's the way I do it now from the server. The directive actually lists
more paths than this, but this is the basic idea:
<< /0/exports/data1 >>
+null: .?* *
<< /0/exports/data2 >>
+null: .?* *
<< /0/exports/data3 >>
+null: .?* *
<< /1/exports/data1 >>
+null: .?* *
So the first NSR client resource (a) backs up 'All' but uses this server
side directive, and we have another client resource (b) that backs up
only these specific paths with no directive. Both client resources
backup their data to separate pools, but both pools have indexing turned
on, so all save sets are browsable. As file systems fill up, we just
create new ones, and I add them to the server side directive. If I
switch things to use client side directives then resource (a) will no
longer need to specify the server side directive. How do I set up the
client side directives?
Do I (1) create a single '.nsr' file under each of the parent
directories, so, say, /0/exports/.nsr would contain:
<< data1 >>
+null: .?* *
<< data2 >>
+null: .?* *
<< data 3 >>
+null: .?* *
and /1/exports/.nsr would contain similar syntax and then ditto for the
other file system paths?
Or, do I (2) create a '.nsr' file under each of the above directories
with the following syntax:
+null .? * *
Wherein I don't specify the name of the path, just "+null .? * *". I'm
thinking option 2 would be a complete disaster because then nothing
would get backed up unless the path specified something further down,
e.g. /0/exports/dir1/other, but it won't so I'd be like those tourists
in those AMEX commercials. So, option 1 might be the only cure. Clearly,
option 1 will force me to create several .nsr files, but none of them is
going to be as long as the combined server side directive. Is this
reasonable and the best I can do? Will this work?
Thanks.
George
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