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Re: [Networker] sizing a Sun server for a 4xLTO3 tape library

2006-02-15 10:23:40
Subject: Re: [Networker] sizing a Sun server for a 4xLTO3 tape library
From: Vernon Harris <harriv00 AT YAHOO DOT COM>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:21:23 -0800
Thanks,
That good to know, maybe sun can finally make some
inroads in the x86 market.  That sounds like a kick
ass server.

--- Matthew Huff <mhuff AT OX DOT COM> wrote:

> Since Legato 7.3 is certified for Solaris X86 64-bit
> for Solaris 10, I
> would imagine a Sun Fire X4200 with 2 x Opteron 275
> chips would be an
> ideal server. First, the 4 x AMD cores would be a
> lot faster than the
> current sparc chipset. Second, it has 4 gigabit
> ethernet ports built in.
> Third it has 5 PCI-X slots which are a considerable
> upgrade over Sun's
> PCI slots. Finally, with 4 GB ram and 2x 73GB
> drives, it lists for
> $6300...
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Legato NetWorker discussion 
> > [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On Behalf
> Of Jeff Mery
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:10 AM
> > To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: [Networker] sizing a Sun server for a
> 4xLTO3 tape library
> > 
> > Solaris 10 has a completely new TCP stack that
> eliminates a 
> > single-thread for network communication in Solaris
> 9.  We're 
> > going to 10 as soon as our OS admins are
> comfortable with it 
> > (READ: Very Soon!!).
> > 
> > Jeff Mery - MCSE, MCP
> > National Instruments
> > 
> >
>
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> > -----------
> > "Allow me to extol the virtues of the Net Fairy,
> and of all 
> > the fantastic dorks that make the nice packets go
> from here 
> > to there. Amen."
> > TB - Penny Arcade
> >
>
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> > -----------
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Teresa Biehler <tpbsys AT RIT DOT EDU>
> > Sent by: Legato NetWorker discussion
> <NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU>
> > 02/15/2006 08:54 AM
> > Please respond to
> > Legato NetWorker discussion
> <NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU>; 
> > Please respond to Teresa Biehler <tpbsys AT RIT DOT EDU>
> > 
> > 
> > To
> > NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > cc
> > 
> > Subject
> > Re: [Networker] sizing a Sun server for a 4xLTO3
> tape library
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Is there any significant difference between
> Solaris 9 and 10 
> > related to their ability to handle multiple NICs? 
> > 
> > -T
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Legato NetWorker discussion 
> > [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
> > On Behalf Of Robert Maiello
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:43 AM
> > To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: [Networker] sizing a Sun server for a
> 4xLTO3 tape library
> > 
> > That is well summed up Vernon, the key concept
> being 2 LTO3 
> > drives (and even 2 LTO2 drives) can "eat" a
> gigabit NIC all 
> > on there own.
> > 
> > That said, I'd like to add that looking at PCI
> buses for the 
> > HBAs and/or
> > 
> > NICs I'm always hard pressed to pick a particular
> SUN server 
> > up to the task.  Perhaps others can reccommend
> one?  The 
> > ideal server being one where every card is
> connected to a 
> > seperate high speed PCI bus.
> > 
> > Also, it has been seen that Solaris 9 or Solaris
> 10 is needed 
> > to get the throughput out of mulitple NICS.
> > 
> > Robert Maiello
> > Pioneer Data Systems
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:34:25 -0800, Vernon Harris
> <harriv00 AT YAHOO DOT COM>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > >Ty,
> > >Rule of thumb for sizing a sun server to drive 4
> x
> > >LTO3 drives would be as follows:
> > >
> > >   For each LTO-3 drive you would need a minimum
> of approximately 
> > >1.25GHZ of processing power.  That would include
> the 
> > processing power 
> > >necessary to handle 1 gigabit ethernet nic card. 
> But to adequately 
> > >drive the 4 LTO-3 drives if you backup
> methodology is lan based 
> > >backups, you should consider adding a second nic
> card and 
> > trunking the 
> > >2 nic cards together to create a fat network
> pipe.  Otherwise max 
> > >throughput would be limited to approximately
> 80-90MB/sec, 
> > which is the 
> > >practical thruput limit of gigabit ethernet. If
> you add a 
> > second nic, 
> > >you will need 1.5GHZ of processor power per
> drive.
> > >
> > >Practically, most servers can never generate
> enough i/o to 
> > keep LTO-3 
> > >drives spooling without shoeshining the drives. 
> The 
> > installations that 
> > >I've seen with
> > >LTO-3 drives configured attached to solaris
> servers have not 
> > >expererienced performance issues on the servers.
> > >
> > >One important problem that I've seen repeatedly
> on Sun 
> > Servers attached 
> > >to the fabric is with Sun Branded qlogic hba's
> using the leadville 
> > >driver stack.  This is manifested with link
> offline errors in the 
> > >/var/adm/messages file which causes the hba to go
> offline and the 
> > >connected drives and libraries to disappear from
> the fabric.  This 
> > >condition can only be resolved by rebooting the
> server.  Stick with 
> > >native emulex or qlogic cards.  Otherwise you are
> asking for major 
> > >problems.
> > >
> > >--- Ty Young <Phillip_Young AT I2 DOT COM> wrote:
> > >
> > >> All,
> > >>
> > >> I apologize in advance if this topic has been
> covered.  I looked 
> > >> through the archive using a variety of search
> terms without 
> > >> successful results.
> > >>
> > >> We have determined that a 4 x LTO3 tape library
> will work 
> > well in our
> 
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