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Re: [Networker] Relabeling tapes, recovering from pieces of savesets?

2005-06-29 10:47:48
Subject: Re: [Networker] Relabeling tapes, recovering from pieces of savesets?
From: "King, David - Eastman" <dking AT EASTMAN DOT COM>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:45:55 -0400
What command do you use to identify aborted savesets? 


David L. King


-----Original Message-----
From: Maarten Boot (CWEU-USERS/CWNL)
[mailto:Maarten.Boot AT nl.compuware DOT com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:46 AM
To: Legato NetWorker discussion; King, David - Eastman
Subject: Re: [Networker] Relabeling tapes, recovering from pieces of
savesets?

Related to this issue:

I have daily cron jobs deleting any backup that is older than say 12
hours and 
still incomplete.   I also list and delete incomplete clones after a 
reasonable time window.

They anyway will never be selected for restore or cloning and in the
mminfo output only confuse 

All my querys allways include !ssrecycle,!incomplete (someting that I
consider should have been the default for all normal queries. It is the
exception you should have to specify not the normality)

Maarten

On Wednesday 29 June 2005 16:27, King, David - Eastman wrote:
> Did you ever get an answer to this?  We are having the same problem on

> Clariion Disk Library tapes.
>
>
> David L. King
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Legato NetWorker discussion 
> [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
> On Behalf Of George Sinclair
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 3:40 PM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: [Networker] Relabeling tapes, recovering from pieces of 
> savesets?
>
> Hi,
>
> I have some questions on relabeling tapes, but first the background. 
> We have several tapes that have been marked full prematurely. This 
> happens from time to time. I say prematurely in the sense that these 
> volumes would normally have at least 100 GB or so native, but they 
> filled up at like 30 GB, or in some cases way less, which I'm guessing

> was when NetWorker encountered some kind of problem and wrote an eof
on the tape.
> This has happened on both LTO and SDLT media but doesn't happen that 
> often. The majority of the savesets on these tapes, or at least the 
> majority of the space that's being used up on the tape, appears to be 
> from these "bogus" savesets. I'm calling them bogus because I don't 
> think I can recover anything from them. 'mminfo' shows the following 
> values for ssflags, sumflags and clflags respectively for these save
> sets:
>
> ssflags sumflags clflags  saveset_recover_window_shows 
> ======================================================
> vrEiF   cE       i        (aborted)
> vrEiF   cE       s        (aborted suspect)
> vrEi    cE       s        (in-progress suspect)
> vrEi    cE       i        (in-progress)
>
> It is interesting to note that none of these savesets has been cloned 
> even though in some cases, the clflags value does show 's' which I 
> thought didn't get set until you tried to read the tape. Regardless, 
> many of these savesets were automatically re-run at same level and 
> seemed to complete just fine. Others were not, but I then scheduled 
> re-runs for them at the same respective level, and those copies all 
> look good, i.e. ssflags shows something like: vF and clflags shows
nothing.
>
> I'm thinking to simply clone the good savesets (i.e. ones with values 
> like vF or vrF) on the affected tapes so as to conglomerate them all 
> onto one (or at least fewer) tape(s) so I can then re-label all the 
> affected tapes. I should note that just about all of the "bogus"
> savesets are completely contained on their volumes. It seems a shame 
> to keep some volume that only had like 4 GB written to it when maybe 
> only a few hundred MB of savesets on these are non-bogus. Could just 
> clone those off and then re-use the tape. Anyway, this brings up some
> questions:
>
> 1. Might it be better to simply try to clone all the savesets on the 
> tape, and whatever nsrclone is able to do, keep that, and whatever it 
> can't (nsrclone probably will have problems when it runs against ones 
> with values like: "vrEiF cE i") then I probably couldn't recover data 
> from it anyway, so just wipe the tape once done?
>
> 2. Can you typically recover data from a saveset wherein one or more 
> pieces are identified with one of the above values like: "vrEiF cE i",

> "vrEiF cE s", etc.?
>
> 3. In the event that one of the bogus savesets is not completely 
> contained on the volume and one or more of the other pieces appears 
> okay (i.e. flags look good) then is there a reliable way to actually 
> recover data from one of the good pieces? As has been mentioned in 
> other posting(s), it is possible to use scanner to write the data from

> a piece of a saveset onto disk, but could you do anything with it at
that point?
> I've never tried.
>
> I'm just thinking that since I have valid copies of these bad savesets
> -- in many cases they were run immediately after the preceding 
> failure, but for others I ran them maybe 2-3 days later -- then I can 
> probably delete those bad ones as they're just about all completely 
> contained on the given volume. Now, for the very few that are not 
> completely contained on there, and for which there is at least one 
> good piece, it is always possible that there could be some data on one

> of those good pieces that might be salvageable and might have been 
> deleted before the subsequent re-run. Might have to just take that 
> chance if getting anything back from the good piece is too involved?
>
> Thanks.
>
> George
>
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