Hello Randy,
With Exchange 2003, you will be able to use the RSG (Recovery Storage Group)
instead of needing a separate server. RSGs are like a little recovery
sandbox within the production server.
You will still need to recover the entire database to do this, then use
Microsoft's ExMerge utility to copy from the RSG to your user's mailbox.
The MB backups would allow you to recover items directly to the users's
mailbox without going through the RSG/ExMerge steps. Thus MB backups do
still add value, for those who prefer that option.
Most experienced Exchange Admins prefer not to do brick-level backups. Some
perform MB backups only on senior managament mailboxes, etc.
Thanks,
_Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Legato NetWorker discussion
[mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU]On Behalf Of Narkinsky, Brian
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 3:00 PM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] Backing up Exchange...
You will have to restore the database to a seperate server in a seperate
Exchange Org but, yes you can get back individual mailboxes. You need to
read the Microsoft Exchange Disaster Recovery whitepapers.
-----Original Message-----
From: Legato NetWorker discussion
[mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU]On Behalf Of Randy Doering
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 5:56 PM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] Backing up Exchange...
Hello Scott - I thank you also for the explanations.
Regarding the so called brick-level backups using MSEXCH:MB (for all) or
MSEXCH:MB/Username or MSEXCH:MB (then specifying the mailboxes in an
input file). We have been struggling with this on a Windows
2000/Exchange Cluster and I logged a call with Legato support.
One answer from Legato support was that if you were running Windows
2003/Exchange, then you don't need to perform the MSEXCH:MB option at
all. Going through some steps for the restores you'll be able to perform
individual mailbox restores after backing up the MSEXCH:IS saveset.
As we are, just today, turning on a Windows 2003/Exchange cluster to
migrate to, I would like verification that we will indeed be able to do
individual mailboxes from the MSEXCH:IS saveset. We'll be testing this
tomorrow with some throw away test mailboxes.
Thanks again,
Randy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Legato NetWorker discussion
[mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
> On Behalf Of Scott Bingham
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 1:59 PM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [Networker] Backing up Exchange...
>
> Hello Brian et al,
>
> The essential saveset is MSEXCH:IS -- this will do a database backup
of
> everything in the Exchange Server. Or MSEXCH: by itself will do the
same
> operation. This will allow disaster recovery (i.e. disk crash). To
> recover
> individual items, this will allow you to recover databases to the RSG
via
> Microsoft mechanisms, or to recover to a scratch server.
>
> If you wish for an easier way to do individual item recoveries, you
may
> opt
> to enable MSEXCH:MB or MSEXCH:PF backups. These will save the same
> information over again, in a different format, such that individual
> messages
> etc may be recovered without recovering the entire database. The
industry
> standard term for this is a brick-level backup. This is a slower and
more
> cumbersone operation, and would be useless for disaster recovery, but
is
> quite useful if you're often approached by people who have
inadvertently
> deleted important messages.
>
> In summary: You must always do an IS backup to protect your
environment.
> You may elect to also do MB or PF if you would like that flexibility
and
> have the resources. As others have noted, no additional licenses are
> required for this.
>
> Hope that this helps,
> _Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Legato NetWorker discussion
> [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU]On Behalf Of Michael Brooks
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:11 AM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [Networker] Backing up Exchange...
>
>
> it is my understanding that you need two clients -- one for individual
> mailboxes, and one for database (IS). for individual mailboxes, the
> saveset is MSEXCH:MB, for database MSEXCH:
>
> and i concur with jeffrey that the license is per physical box
>
> michael brooks ........... michaelb AT sequoiains DOT com
> Network Administrator .... 831.657.4539 (phone)
> Sequoia Insurance ........ 831.657.4512 (fax)
>
> "Flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Legato NetWorker discussion
[mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
> On Behalf Of Brian O'Neill
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 2:52 PM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [Networker] Backing up Exchange...
>
> This is where I was confused by the documentation. It implied that
> MSEXCH: did not back up private mailboxes and public folders.
Elsewhere
> it seems to imply MSEXCH:IS is what I want. Instead, it seems that I
> really want MSEXCH:, MSEXCH:MB, and MSEXCH:PF. Is this true? Why would
I
> NOT want to back up some parts, unless it was to schedule them
> differently?
>
> I intend on using the same basic schedule as other clients - Full once
a
> month, incremental daily - with some staggering of when the fulls take
> place. Does a different schedule make sense for Exchange?
>
> Leiss, Jeffrey wrote:
> > You only need 1 license per server, the number of clients you have
of
> > that server is unimportant. If you want to backup all of Exchange,
> > MSEXCH: is sufficient, and nsrxchsv.exe needs to be added to the
> > backup command field under the remote tab in the settings of the
> client.
> >
> >
> > -=-=-=
> > Jeffrey Leiss
> > Senior Infrastructure Analyst - ACS
> > jeff.leiss AT nwdc DOT net
> > 503.466.6540
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Legato NetWorker discussion
> > [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
> > On Behalf Of Brian O'Neill
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:42 PM
> > To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > Subject: [Networker] Backing up Exchange...
> >
> > Just got a few questions to pass by the experts (I was one once.. :)
> >
> > I'm backing up 4 Exchange 2003 servers as clients to my Linux
> > Networker server. After reading the Exchange Module docs, I
understand
>
> > that I need to create two "clients" for each. Will this count as 2
> > clients against the license? Or as long as I use the same client
name,
> is it only 1?
> >
> > As for setting up the client, if I want to back up all Exchange
stuff,
>
> > is "MSEXCH:IS" the correct saveset? Also, will "nsrxchsv" by itself
> > sufficient?
> >
> > Does the "Skip M Drive" directive still apply to Exchange 2003?
> >
> > -Brian
> >
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