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Re: [Networker] Retention Period expired but Volume not ready for recycling

2004-03-16 10:53:19
Subject: Re: [Networker] Retention Period expired but Volume not ready for recycling
From: Robert Maiello <robert.maiello AT THOMSON DOT COM>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:54:08 -0500
I don't recall if there is an mminfo techinique to list dependencies. You
can list the savesets after 1/18/04 for this client.

An easier way..
For the client here, jusstusd001, one can probably go to the savset recover
window (from recover gui in Windows, nwadmin gui for unix).   Here if you
list this client you'll see all the savesets for D:\NTBACKUP  after the
full on  1/18/04.   Are any of the savesets after the full browsable in
this window?   That would explain why the full needs to be kept.
Highlight a saveset in this window it will tell what tape it is on.  The
very last saveset of D:\NTBACKUP before the next full backup needs to
be recyclable before it will recycle/expire the 1/18/04 backup.


Robert Maiello
Thomson Healthcare



On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 12:38:45 +0100, Staudenmaier, Thomas (ZKD)
<Thomas.Staudenmaier AT ZKD.BWL DOT DE> wrote:

>Hello,
>
>you are right, there are still browsable savesets on the volume as mminfo
>shows:
>mminfo -a -v 000098
> volume        client          date     time        size ssid      fl   lvl
>name
>000098         jusstusd001   18.01.2004 01:58:53 2157 MB 185195329 cb  full
>D:\NTBACKUP
>
>But this saveset is already ready for recycling:
>C:\>mminfo -q "ssid=185195329" -r
>"sscreate,ssbrowse,ssretent,state,fragflags"
> created  browse   retent     fl
>18.01.2004 18.02.2004 18.02.2004 E  hE
>18.01.2004 18.02.2004 18.02.2004 E  mE
>18.01.2004 18.02.2004 18.02.2004 E  tE
>
>Now this is a saveset with "E" and with "b"; how come?
>Is there somewhere a saveset (still browsable) that depends on this one? How
>do I find this saveset?
>
>Thomas
>ZKD Stuttgart
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Maiello [mailto:robert.maiello AT THOMSON DOT COM]
>Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 3:47 PM
>To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU; Thomas Staudenmaier
>Subject: Re: Retention Period expired but Volume not ready for recycling
>
>
>We ponder this quite often as our tapes come up for recycling.   Networker
>is usually right though and seems to know better then us.
>
>You can
>do a mminfo -a -p -v 000098  and it will show you the retention of each
>saveset on the tape.   Still you may find all the expire/retention dates
>have pasted.   You can do a mminfo -a -v 000098 and look  for savesets
>with a "E" flag as recycle and no "E" (still browsable?).
>
>In short Networker keeps track of dependencies of the save sets; even though
>all savesets on the tape have reached their retention period there are still
>other savesets that depend on them..ie. incrementals or level 9's that
>depend on a full level saveset.    When these other dependent savesets reach
>their retention then Networker will recycle/expire the saveset on the tape
>in question and thus the tape.
>
>
>Robert Maiello
>Thomson Healthcare
>
>On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:14:56 +0100, Staudenmaier, Thomas (ZKD)
><Thomas.Staudenmaier AT ZKD.BWL DOT DE> wrote:
>
>>Hello there,
>>
>>perhaps someone can introduce me to the secrets of how Networker handles
>>retention policies and when volumes are marked as recycleable.
>>Here in my setup (W2K, Networker 7.1 Build 320) I have volumes where the
>>retention time has been reached but who are not marked eligible for
>>recycling:
>>
>>mminfo -m -q "full,volretent<today"
>>   volume                  written  (%)  expires     read mounts capacity
>>E  000003                   267 GB full   expired    0 KB    27     97 GB
>>   000004                   137 GB full 17.02.2004   0 KB   104     97 GB
>>   000006                   119 GB full 02.03.2004   0 KB    86     97 GB
>>E  000008                   268 GB full   expired    0 KB    40     97 GB
>>E  000011                   233 GB full   expired 1748 MB   222     97 GB
>>   000012                   133 GB full 28.02.2004   0 KB   152     97 GB
>>E  000019                   264 GB full   expired    0 KB    10     97 GB
>>E  000023                   144 GB full   expired    0 KB    66     97 GB
>>E  000034                    57 GB full   expired    0 KB   281     97 GB
>>E  000036                    57 GB full   expired    0 KB    78     97 GB
>>E  000053                   272 GB full   expired    0 KB    20    100 GB
>>E  000054                   195 GB full   expired    0 KB    14     97 GB
>>   000056                   143 GB full 17.02.2004   0 KB    37    100 GB
>>E  000058                   220 GB full   expired  925 MB   295     97 GB
>>E  000076                     0 KB full   expired    0 KB     1     95 GB
>>   000091                   312 GB full 18.02.2004   0 KB   625     95 GB
>>E  000097                   270 GB full   expired  118 GB     9     95 GB
>>   000098                   158 GB full 21.02.2004   0 KB    35     95 GB
>>E  000108                     0 KB full   expired    0 KB     3     95 GB
>>E  000119                     0 KB full   expired    0 KB     1     95 GB
>>E  000139                     0 KB full   expired    0 KB     4     95 GB
>>
>>Today is 12.03.2003 so why are volumes 4,6,12,56,91,98 not ready for
>>recycling?
>>
>>Thanks for your input
>>Thomas
>>
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