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Re: [Networker] recover trying to using offsite volume

2003-08-08 08:26:01
Subject: Re: [Networker] recover trying to using offsite volume
From: Joel Fisher <jfisher AT WFUBMC DOT EDU>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 08:25:57 -0400
Hey George,

Thanks for the response.

It's an W2K client, so we're using winworkr.exe

I know I can use the recover command with a -S but you can do a directed
recover(-c) with a -S.  Finally, several hours after setting the ssid on
the offsite volume to suspect it decided to use the onsite volume and
all was well.  I guess I don't understand why this happens though.  It
smells like a bug to me.  The vast majority of our recoveries work fine
using the onsite cloned copy, but for some reason once in a while
Networker refuses to pick the onsite copy.  Is this a known issue, or am
I the only one who has ever seem this happen?

Thanks,

Joel





-----Original Message-----
From: George Sinclair [mailto:George.Sinclair AT NOAA DOT GOV] 
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 5:46 PM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] recover trying to using offsite volume

If you're using the 'recover' command then you can specify the -S switch
with the saveset id and clone id together as: 'recover -S ssid/cloneid'.
This will guarantee that NetWorker will ask for the clone volume.
Otherwise, NetWorker will default to the original. You can use 'mminfo
-S' to get the clone id for the affected savesets. Obviously, you'll
need to use -q and give it some criteria to narrow down the search.

Cloned savesets have their own id that is separate from the saveset id.
However, even if you do not create a clone of a given saveset, the
original is still considered a clone of itself, so you'll want to make
sure you specify the right clone id. The first one listed in the output
from 'mminfo  -S' is always the original.

Not sure how you specify when using nwrecover. I would think if you were
using saveset recover from the GUI then just selecting the clone saveset
would suffice.

Joel, what were you using to recover from the clone, e.g. nwrecover,
saveset recover, something else?

George


"Rohrich, James" wrote:
>
> One of the benefits of sending the originals offsite is that the tapes
have
> been verified through the cloning process.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rutherford, Craig R. [mailto:Craig.Rutherford AT JHUAPL DOT EDU]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:08 PM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [Networker] recover trying to using offsite volume
>
> Joel,
> We keep our originals onsite (in the tape library) and send the clone
copies
> offsite (since Legato will always try a restore from the originals
first).
> If you send your originals offsite, I'm surprised you haven't had to
do this
> same procedure before.
> Craig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Fisher [mailto:jfisher AT WFUBMC DOT EDU]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:35 PM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [Networker] recover trying to using offsite volume
>
> Hey Craig,
>
> Thanks for responding.  I'll try that for this ssid.
>
> We have recoveries going on a daily basis and they always use the
cloned
> version, I'm not sure why this one wants the original.  Isn't it
normal
> behavior to use the near volume?  Or is it normal to try and use the
> original volume?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rutherford, Craig R. [mailto:Craig.Rutherford AT JHUAPL DOT EDU]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:39 PM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [Networker] recover trying to using offsite volume
>
> I think you need to mark the original save set as "Suspect" so Legato
> will
> request the clone save set instead.
>
> Suspect button -- click to change the save set's status to "suspect."
A
> "suspect" save set cannot be used for recoveries. If NetWorker detects
a
> suspect save set, it will then request a clone of the save set and its
> corresponding clone volume for the recovery (assuming that a cloned
> volume
> containing the cloned save set is available). This characteristic will
> continue until the save set is returned to "normal" status.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Fisher [mailto:jfisher AT WFUBMC DOT EDU]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:26 PM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: [Networker] recover trying to using offsite volume
>
> Hey All,
>
> Wondering if anyone knows what I can do about this...
>
> I have a saveset that is still within it's browse period that resides
in
> 2 pools(backup and clone).  The clone is nearline in the Silo and the
> original is at offsite storage.  We are trying to do a recover, and
> networker keeps giving a "media waiting" message looking for the
offsite
> volume.
>
> Anybody have any clue as to why it won't use the onsite volume?  Below
> is some info from mminfo.  The data we are trying to recover is in
> saveset 568401153.  I've run nsrck on the media database and on the
> client index without any results.
>
> ssflags created volume        ssid          clone id pool
> location       client     name
>
> vF      07/25/03 S01138        568401153   1059251748
OnlineCloneR30Days
> STK9310   ptcrcnt.nt.wfubmc.edu E:\
>
> vF      07/25/03 S01404        568401153   1059183971
> OffsiteB30DaysR30Days PP1-Vault ptcrcnt.nt.wfubmc.edu E:\
>
> vF      07/25/03 S01406        568401153   1059183971
> OffsiteB30DaysR30Days PP1-Vault ptcrcnt.nt.wfubmc.edu E:\
>
> vF      07/25/03 S01407        568401153   1059251748
OnlineCloneR30Days
> STK9310   ptcrcnt.nt.wfubmc.edu E:\
>
> vF      07/25/03 S01408        568401153   1059251748
OnlineCloneR30Days
> STK9310   ptcrcnt.nt.wfubmc.edu E:\
>
> vF      07/25/03 S01404        568418561   1059184039
> OffsiteB30DaysR30Days PP1-Vault ptcrcnt.nt.wfubmc.edu G:\
>
> vF      07/25/03 S01406        568418561   1059184039
> OffsiteB30DaysR30Days PP1-Vault ptcrcnt.nt.wfubmc.edu G:\
>
> vF      07/25/03 S01407        568418561   1059251761
OnlineCloneR30Days
> STK9310   ptcrcnt.nt.wfubmc.edu G:\
>
> vF      07/25/03 S01408        568418561   1059251761
OnlineCloneR30Days
> STK9310   ptcrcnt.nt.wfubmc.edu G:\
>
> vF      07/25/03 S01404        568400898   1059183970
> OffsiteB30DaysR30Days PP1-Vault ptcrcnt.nt.wfubmc.edu REPAIRDISK:\
>
> vF      07/25/03 S01407        568400898   1059251755
OnlineCloneR30Days
> STK9310   ptcrcnt.nt.wfubmc.edu REPAIRDISK:\
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joel
>
> E450/2.6/6.1.2
>
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