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Re: [Networker] incompatibilities between different Networker versions

2003-01-07 07:51:43
Subject: Re: [Networker] incompatibilities between different Networker versions
From: Jim Lane <JLane AT TORONTOHYDRO DOT COM>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 07:49:29 -0500
At the risk of precipitating a flame war, I couldn't agree more about
the
poor quality and design of Legato Networker. it has always struck me
as
a low-end PC grade product with delusions of grandeur. it's design
seems to be based on the assumption that everything else in the
environment
works perfectly all the time and when it doesn't it's somehow OK for
Networker to just roll over and quit after printing an incomprehensible

message. having just gotten back on support after a 2-year hiatus I've
now discovered, wonder of wonders, that my problem is fixed in the
next release! in the meanwhile the workaround is to stop using DNS
and put static hosts files on all 140+ clients! I'm not sure whether
to
laugh or cry. I wish I was lucky enough to be able to say that this is
my last year using Networker, but that would involve somebody
admitting they'd made a mistake. sigh.

Jim Lane
Sr. Technical Consultant
Network Services
Toronto Hydro
office: (416)-542-2820
cell: (416)-896-8576

>>> Jose-Marcio.Martins AT ENSMP DOT FR 07-Jan-03 5:25:24 AM >>>
George Sinclair wrote:
>
> I don't think it's typically a problem as long as the server is
ALWAYS
> at the same or newer release than the clients. The problem is when
it's
> the other way around. We have found cases where things worked fine,
but
> Legato does not officially sanction this, and if you have problems,
they
> reserve the right to afford you no support. There was at least one
> occassion where we were were having problems backing up large file
> systems on Linux clients. We upgraded the client software, and this
> fixed the problem, but I don't recall if it was later than the
server's
> release at that time. I would be prepared to down grade if problems
> occur.

We're running clients at a newer version than the server.  Clients are
under 6.1 (I think) and server is running 5.5.2 and all seems to work
fine.

Hot line said me that it could be a problem.

I don't understand why this could be a problem. A well designed and
programmed software should detect versions of connected machines and
adapt themselves in order to continue to work despite of differences.
Eventually, user interface should show an alert message if difference
of
versions could be a problem - networker software detect versions but
doesn't show any alert !

In a well designed/programmed software, this is a design requirement
and
shall not be imposed to users. This is very important in the case of
security software as is the case of backup systems.

I'm tired of networker problems, mostly come from what I think is a
poor
conception. I consider Legato Networker a bad software.

Usually, when you call hot line with a problem, they say it's a
training
problem and they try to sell you a $3000 training...  8-)

I hope this is the last year we will be using Legato software.

Jose Marcio

>
> Legato does have a software and hardware compatibility guide on
their
> web site.
>
> George
>
> Jim Lane wrote:
> >
> > Hi, All
> >
> > I have Networker 6.0 on my servers and a mixture of 6.0 and lower
> > version on my clients. I'm wondering if there is any possibility
of
> > incompatibility being created by an upgrade of all this to the
latest
> > level, ie. 6.1.3. does it matter what order, clients versus
servers,
> > that I do this in? is there any kind of "compatibility matrix" I
should
> > be consulting before I start?
> >
> > Jim Lane
> > Sr. Technical Consultant
> > Network Services
> > Toronto Hydro
> > office: (416)-542-2820
> > cell: (416)-896-8576
> >
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