Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula daemon message

I think you could easily achieve the same result by setting a suitable retention period and either letting bacula automatically prune volumes when it needs to, or if you really, really want to control it all manually by running an explicit admin job to “prune expired volume” ahead of your cycle. You shouldn’t need to manage this manually, Bacula is designed to operate within a fixed amount of diskspace and provided this is large enough to hold the backup data for the retention periods you set it will operate completely autonomously; it doesn’t expect or require you to clean up after it. Depending on how this RunScript is triggered, you’re telling Bacula to effectively delete all your backups, so I hope you’re doing something like preserving the data elsewhere first.

Bacula is not complaining that you have no volumes left to purge, it’s complaining because you’ve told it to purge volumes attached to a given storage resource when that storage resource doesn’t exist. Here “File” is referring to the name of a Storage { Name=”File” } resource in your Bacula-dir.conf…

Ben Roberts

From: Polcari, Joe (Contractor) [mailto:Joe_Polcari AT cable.comcast DOT com]
Sent: 20 January 2015 16:39
To: Roberts, Ben; mike.brady AT devnull.net DOT nz
Cc: bacula-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
Subject: RE: [Bacula-users] Bacula daemon message

This is all disk storage. I’m trying to truncate all expired volumes immediately after all backups have completed so as to have maximum space available when the next backup cycle begins.

I can check disk space between backups and know there are no 5GB files that I don’t need.

I do this instead of waiting for each backup to prune the volumes when it runs.

I can see that this is failing though because I have no volumes of zero size and the line in the email that says “Storage resource "File": not found”

From: Roberts, Ben [mailto:ben.roberts AT gsacapital DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:30 AM
To: Polcari, Joe (Contractor); mike.brady AT devnull.net DOT nz
Cc: bacula-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
Subject: RE: [Bacula-users] Bacula daemon message

Isn’t that an incredibly dangerous command to run automatically? What are you actually trying to achieve that bacaula’s internal volume management doesn’t do for you?

Ben Roberts

From: Polcari, Joe (Contractor) [mailto:Joe_Polcari AT cable.comcast DOT com]
Sent: 20 January 2015 16:20
To: mike.brady AT devnull.net DOT nz
Cc: bacula-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula daemon message

Aha! Found the source, now how do I stop the message?

RunScript {

RunsWhen=After

RunsOnClient=No

Console = "purge volume action="" storage=File allpools"

}

I was trying to keep space usage to a minimum, I also have

Action On Purge = Truncate

in the default Pool definition.

From: mike.brady AT devnull.net DOT nz [mailto:mike.brady AT devnull.net DOT nz]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 2:48 PM
To: Polcari, Joe (Contractor)
Cc: bacula-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
Subject: RE: [Bacula-users] Bacula daemon message

I doubt that this is a databse issue.

Messages from console commands in Job RunScripts are logged against jobid 0.

In Bacula 7 there is bug though and the messages are only sent when the config is reloaded or the director is restarted rather than being sent with the messages for the job that called the run script. Might that account for the "random" times the messages are received?

On 2015-01-19 05:35, Polcari, Joe (Contractor) wrote:

I was thinking it was more of a corrupted database issue. I've pretty much checked everything else.

Is there something significant about "JobID 0"?

From: Brady, Mike [mailto:mike.brady AT devnull.net DOT nz]
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 8:27 PM
To: bacula-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula daemon message

What about other users crontabs? The bacula user for instance.

Or perhaps a RunScript on one of your Bacula Jobs?

As Bryn said, this is not something that Bacula is doing on its own.

Regards

Mike

On 2015-01-18 09:29, Polcari, Joe (Contractor) wrote:

[root@cdcdbaculadir ~]# crontab -l

no crontab for root

[root@cdcdbaculadir ~]#

From: Bryn Hughes [mailto:linux AT nashira DOT ca]
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 3:13 PM
To: bacula-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula daemon message

Are you SURE there isn't anything like a crontab somewhere that someone set up? This very very very very much has to be something that is being either typed in to bconsole or executed via a script somewhere. It isn't something Bacula is doing on its own.

Bryn

On 2015-01-17 10:54 AM, Polcari, Joe (Contractor) wrote:

Nope, none of that. No admin jobs. All my storage is File. Backups and restores work fine.

From: Roberts, Ben [mailto:ben.roberts AT gsacapital DOT com]
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 1:05 PM
To: Polcari, Joe (Contractor); bacula-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
Subject: RE: Bacula daemon message

Do you have an admin job in your config that's running console commands? It looks like something is executing purge commands automatically which sounds really rather dangerous to the health of your backups. The good news is it doesn't seem to be working because you no longer have a "File" storage any more, but if you were ever to re-create it you might find backups being randomly deleted.

Ben Roberts

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Polcari, Joe (Contractor) [mailto:Joe_Polcari AT cable.comcast DOT com]
> Sent: 17 January 2015 17:22
> To: bacula-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
> Subject: [Bacula-users] FW: Bacula daemon message
>
> How do I stop these? They seem to come at random times once a day.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: root@xxx On Behalf Of Bacula
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 11:04 AM
> To: bacula AT localhost DOT xxx
> Subject: Bacula daemon message
>
> 17-Jan 11:04 xxx-dir JobId 0:
> This command can be DANGEROUS!!!
>
> It purges (deletes) all Files from a Job, JobId, Client or Volume; or it
> purges (deletes) all Jobs from a Client or Volume without regard to
> retention periods. Normally you should use the PRUNE command, which
> respects retention periods.
> 17-Jan 11:04 xxx-dir JobId 0: Automatically selected Catalog: MyCatalog
> 17-Jan 11:04 xxx-dir JobId 0: Using Catalog "MyCatalog"
> 17-Jan 11:04 xxx-dir JobId 0: Storage resource "File": not found 17-Jan
> 11:04 xxx-dir JobId 0: The defined Storage resources are:
> 17-Jan 11:04 xxx-dir JobId 0: 1: Client1Storage
> 17-Jan 11:04 xxx-dir JobId 0: 2: Client2Storage
> 17-Jan 11:04 xxx-dir JobId 0: 3: Client3Storage
> 17-Jan 11:04 xxx-dir JobId 0: 4: Client4Storage
> 17-Jan 11:04 xxx-dir JobId 0: 5: Client5Storage
> 17-Jan 11:04 xxx-dir JobId 0: 6: Client6Storage
> 17-Jan 11:04 xxx-dir JobId 0: Selection aborted, nothing done.
>

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