Bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Patches

2008-10-25 15:13:40
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Patches
From: Eric Bollengier <eric AT eb.homelinux DOT org>
To: bacula-devel AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:11:02 +0200
Le Saturday 25 October 2008 13:41:15 Ulrich Leodolter, vous avez écrit :
> On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 11:32 +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > For some time now, I haven't really been happy with the Bacula patch
> > procedure. Basically, when we fix a bug (either from a bug report or
> > ourselves), we usually generate a patch, post it to the bug report, if
> > any, and upload it to the Bacula patches area of Source Forge.
> >
> > Providing you are subscribed to the bugs database and to the
> > bacula-patches release notification on Source Forge, you will see these
> > patches and can apply them if you deem necessary.
> >
> > The problems I have with this is that some people may not know about
> > patches (we see this in bug reports where a problem is already resolved
> > with a patch), and there is no formal mechanism for developers when
> > generating a patch.
> >
> > We already have more work than we can handle, so any change needs to be
> > simple and not time consuming for developers, but I am wondering if
> > anyone has suggestions how to improve this.  I can think of a few:
> >
> > 1. Change nothing (signing up for bugs and patch notification is already
> > not bad).
> > 2. Announce patches to the bacula-devel list
> > 3. Announce patches to the bacula-devel list and the bacula-users list
> > 4. Announce patches to the bacula-announce list as well as the other two
> >     lists.
> > 5. Put patches in the news (time consuming and I doubt that many read
> > news). 6. Create an rss feed (I doubt that many users use rss, and this
> > also could be time consuming).
>
> Hello,
>
> One thing i am missing are patched packages, rpm and also deb packages
> have a mechanism to include patch files an apply during build process.
>
> For most bacula users it would be much easier to apply patches by "rpm
> -U ..." or "dpkg install ...".

Yes, but you have to build, test and release a package for each disto after 
each patch, this is a *huge* amount of work, we have something like 10 
patches between two releases.

If someone want to build, test and package 10 more often than before for free, 
no problem, but i prefere spend my time with new features and bugs hunting.

> Operating systems like RedHat, CentOS, SLES, Debian, ... are always at
> least one step behind last official version.
>
> An official bacula package repository (yum, apt) would be great.

Fedora, debian and ubuntu already provide this kind of repositor, and often, 
they  have a backport branch.

> Only Sourcecode an patches are released to sourceforge (maybe win32
> binaries too).
>

Bye

> Best Regards
> Ulrich
>
> > If anyone else has ideas we would like to hear them.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Kern
> >

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