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Re: [ADSM-L] Monthly backups of VMs

2017-11-17 07:21:46
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Monthly backups of VMs
From: "Lee, Gary" <glee AT BSU DOT EDU>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 12:20:51 +0000
I assume that the data stored in the SQL databases is the primary retention 
target.
If that is the case, how about a flat file dump to a central storage, then use 
another client to scoop that up monthly.
Use resourceutilization to give it several sessions, and back up to the VTL.

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Harris, Steven
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 5:43 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Monthly backups of VMs

Thanks for the reply Richard

Backupsets apply only to BA client data.  Theoretically exports are possible. 
I've had issues with backupsets in the past and even if it were not possible 
would be loath to go there again (e.g. backupset is essentially a restore so it 
would take a drive to start, but then not have priority to take another drive 
to write its data and fail, so I didn't get a good backupset and whatever was 
interrupted also failed).

Management of exports is also less than ideal. And they are slow, hmmm, unless 
an active pool was used.

The problem with mixing monthlies and dailies is that they both use the 
same-named snapshots and so if one is running and the other starts it causes 
the existing snapshot to be deleted and the running backup fails.  If there 
were a way to alter the snapshot name for the monthlies, that might help, but 
afaik there is not.  Without that then we need to manipulate the domain.vmfull 
(or any alternatives) on a daily basis to exclude that day's monthlies from 
daily backups and include into that day's monthlies.  Not simple.

Thanks for making me explain this.  Active pool and exports may be the way to 
go.  Define the export volumes explicitly with a name that identifies their 
contents, then back them up with the BA client.

Cheers

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Richard Cowen
Sent: Friday, 17 November 2017 9:06 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Monthly backups of VMs

Can you use backupsets or export nodes to real tape (no client impact.) Or full 
restores to a dummy node and then archive those to real tape  (once a month), 
again no direct client impact.
Can the "monthlles" be spread over 30 days?

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Harris, Steven
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 4:51 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Monthly backups of VMs

HI All

Environment is
TSM 7.1.1 server on AIX. 7.1.1 Storage agents on Linux,  7.1.1  BA clients, 
7.1.1 VE clients,  VMWare 5.5.  The VMware backups are via the SAN to a 
Protectier VTL.

My Client is an international financial organization so we have lots or 
regulatory requirements including SARBOX.  All of these require a monthly 
backup retained 7 years.  Recent trends in application design have resulted in 
multiple large MSSQL databases - up to 10 TB that never delete their data.  
Never mind the logic, the hard requirement is that these be backed up monthly 
and kept for 7 years, and that no variation will be made to the application 
design.

Standard process has been a daily VE incremental backup to a daily node  and 
monthly full to a separate node.  The fulls are becoming untenable on several 
grounds.  The VBS Servers need to run a scsi rescan on weekdays to pick up any 
changed disk allocations, and this interrupts any running backups.  The 
individual throughput of the Virtual tape drives is limited so sessions run for 
a long time and there is not enough real tape to use that.   Long running 
backups cause issues with the storage on the back end because the snapshots are 
held so long.

Does anyone have any practical alternate approaches for taking a monthly VMware 
backup for long term retention?

Thanks

Steve

Steven Harris

TSM Admin/Consultant
Canberra Australia

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