Re: [ADSM-L] 8.1.2 client and 7.1.7 servers

>From what I understand so far (pre 8.1) the only thing that totally stopped
working on basically prehistoric clients is the scheduling services on the
client so people that need to backup for instance, an old NT 4.0 server or
something need to use some other scheduler but other than that all basics
still work with version 3 clients from what I heard...no guarantees from
me! :-P


On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Zoltan Forray <zforray AT vcu DOT edu> wrote:

> My other concern is really old, unsupported clients.  So far my OS400/BRMS
> 5.5 client is still working with 7.1.7 and we have a smattering of 6.3 and
> older unsupported clients (old Solaris, RHEL x32, Windows 2003 and until
> recently an IRIX box) so 8.1.x is not on any current schedule.
>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Stefan Folkerts <
> stefan.folkerts AT gmail DOT com>
> wrote:
>
> > I agree Zoltan, it's very specific and I too would like for IBM to
> explain
> > what the reasoning behind the warning is.
> > Personally, I suspect it's a cover your *** type of deal, with that many
> > releases of so many different kind of clients floating around I would
> kind
> > of understand the reasoning behind something like that.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Zoltan Forray <zforray AT vcu DOT edu> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I agree with both of your responses that it should not be an issue and
> > the
> > > "compatibility" page says it should be good as far as server/client
> > levels
> > > go.  But since the docs have the very specific warning about upgrading
> > the
> > > servers to 8.1.2 before clients or *"If you do not upgrade your servers
> > > first, communication between servers and clients might be
> > interrupted."*, I
> > > felt I should ask for empirical evidence that it wont cause problems.
> The
> > > warning was not specific on what kinds of communications problems to
> > expect
> > > or if/how they can be addresses if someone decides to download and
> > upgrade
> > > their client simply based on the "yes, 7.1 servers are compatible with
> > 8.1
> > > clients" document and didn't see the warning I read.
> > >
> > > Perhaps it is due to TLS 1.2 now turned ON by default.  Either way,
> more
> > > details/specifics from IBM would be helpful.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 4:21 AM, Stefan Folkerts <
> > > stefan.folkerts AT gmail DOT com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I agree with Eric and I have 8.2 VE setups connected to 7.1 servers
> at
> > > > multiple sites, i've never seen any issues. I do find the
> documentation
> > > > strange if it say's you need to upgrade your clients before upgrading
> > the
> > > > server. The only thing that makes sense to me is client-side dedup
> with
> > > > compression, for that you want your clients on the latest level
> > otherwise
> > > > the compression isn't compatible with the server compression and you
> > > don't
> > > > get optimal results.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM <
> > > > Eric-van.Loon AT klm DOT com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Nor with up-leveled clients by the way, which is the case here.
> > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > > Eric van Loon
> > > > > Air France/KLM Storage Engineering
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM
> > > > > Sent: woensdag 23 augustus 2017 9:15
> > > > > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > > > Subject: RE: 8.1.2 client and 7.1.7 servers
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Zoltan!
> > > > > The page http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21053218
> > > shows
> > > > > that the SP 8.1.2 client is supported with all 8.1 and 7.1
> servers. I
> > > > have
> > > > > never encountered issues with down-leveled clients in my 20+ years
> of
> > > TSM
> > > > > history.
> > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > > Eric van Loon
> > > > > Air France/KLM Storage Engineering
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of
> > > > > Zoltan Forray
> > > > > Sent: dinsdag 22 augustus 2017 15:03
> > > > > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > > > Subject: 8.1.2 client and 7.1.7 servers
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone tried using the latest 8.1.2 clients with 7.1.7 servers?
> > I
> > > > > haven't had the chance to test such a configuration (since my lone
> > test
> > > > > server is at 8.1.1) and with the dire-warnings in the readme docs,
> I
> > > made
> > > > > sure everyone on my staff knows to NOT install 8.1.2 clients.
> > > > >
> > > > > From the readme/docs:
> > > > >
> > > > > Upgrade your IBM Spectrum Protect™ servers to Version 8.1.2 before
> > you
> > > > > upgrade the backup-archive clients.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you do not upgrade your servers first, communication between
> > servers
> > > > > and clients might be interrupted.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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