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Re: [ADSM-L] protect pool plus replicate node equals poor replication efficiencies

2016-09-15 12:05:33
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] protect pool plus replicate node equals poor replication efficiencies
From: Stefan Folkerts <stefan.folkerts AT GMAIL DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 18:02:12 +0200
Do you have a fast Spectrum Protect database / active log?
We run 2.4TB of metadata per hour with replication (note, this is not
actual data, this is metadata representing 2.4TB of data).
But that system has SSD's and runs in excess of 140.000 IOP/s in Spectrum
Protect database benchmarks.
I would think this is very much database (and active log) performance bound
(on both sides).




On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Nixon, Charles D. (David) <
cdnixon AT carilionclinic DOT org> wrote:

> Best I can tell, it is transferring the data over the wire and support
> stated as much.  We are currently using the replnode for that single node
> so it's getting the default of 10 sessions and appears to be using all of
> them, for the four hours or so that it's sending data.
>
> I don't have a good way to see server's bandwidth but network IO chart
> implies that it's not sending a great amount of data but that may be due to
> the 846GB over 4.5 hours.
>
> 09/15/16   10:58:08      ANR0327I Replication of node NODENAME completed.
> Files
>                           current: 70,341. Files replicated: 752 of 752.
> Files
>                           updated: 602 of 602. Files deleted: 692 of 692.
> Amount
>                           replicated: 12,487 GB of 12,487 GB. Amount
> transferred:
>                           846 GB. Elapsed time: 0 Days, 4 Hours, 28
> Minutes.
>                           (SESSION: 414242, PROCESS: 539)
> ---------------------------------------------------
> David Nixon
> Storage Engineer II
> Technology Services Group
> Carilion Clinic
> 451 Kimball Ave.
> Roanoke, VA 24015
> Phone: 540-224-3903
> cdnixon AT carilionclinic DOT org
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> ________________________________________
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> Stefan
> Folkerts [stefan.folkerts AT GMAIL DOT COM]
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:45 AM
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> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] protect pool plus replicate node equals poor
> replication efficiencies
>
> >Support confirmed that the amount of data replicated in a replnode command
> is the same, regardless of the protect pool command status.
>
> I think that this is only in the statistics, not in the actual transfer on
> the wire.
> the replnode should not transmit actual data if the data was send by the
> protect storagepool command.
> Are you running enough (but not to many) parallel processes for the
> replicate node command so it can perform optimally?
>
> I'm using this setup for multiple customers and it worked fine for us so
> far.
>
> http://imgur.com/a/mT6ux
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Nixon, Charles D. (David) <
> cdnixon AT carilionclinic DOT org> wrote:
>
> > We opened a ticket related to long replication times in a container pool
> > after replication takes place, and got an answer that 'we can recreate
> your
> > problem but it is likely working as designed' even though it's contrary
> to
> > documentation.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
> >
> > -Two TSM servers at 7.1.5
> > -Single client going to a single container.  Client backs up 12TB a night
> > and after dedupe/compression, we see a 1TB change rate (approximately).
> > -Once the backup is complete, we run a protect pool.  It's expected that
> > this process will ship 1TB to the DR site.  -Protect completes
> successfully.
> > -a replnode is issued against the node and TSM spends the next 4 hours
> > replicating data to the DR site
> >
> > Support confirmed that the amount of data replicated in a replnode
> command
> > is the same, regardless of the protect pool command status.  However, the
> > documentation leads me to be that if you have already protected the pool,
> > the replnode should be a metadata only transfer.
> >
> > So while we are able to transfer and complete the processes, it seems to
> > 'cost' us quite a bit in both IO and WAN usage to do so using containers,
> > defeating the point of using containers to reduce replication costs.  Any
> > ideas as to what is going on?
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > David Nixon
> > Storage Engineer II
> > Technology Services Group
> > Carilion Clinic
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> > Roanoke, VA 24015
> > Phone: 540-224-3903
> > cdnixon AT carilionclinic DOT org
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