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Re: [ADSM-L] Data Protection for IBM Domino

2015-08-26 05:40:27
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Data Protection for IBM Domino
From: "Loon, EJ van (ITOPT3) - KLM" <Eric-van.Loon AT KLM DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 09:38:47 +0000
Hi Frank!
>From the TDP manual:

Domdsmc incremental performs the following functions:

    Backs up new databases since the last backup (or newly included ones)
    Backs up any non-logged databases that changed since the last backup (based 
on modification dates of both data and metadata)
    Backs up any logged databases with a DBIID that changed (if archival 
logging is in effect)
    Inactivates any active database backups on the Tivoli® Storage Manager 
server that are excluded from backup or no longer exist on the Domino® server

So a change of the modification data should trigger an incremental backup too, 
right?
Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
AF/KLM Storage Engineering

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Frank Ramke
Sent: dinsdag 25 augustus 2015 16:50
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Data Protection for IBM Domino

Eric

After further study with circular logging, it turns out I didn't give good 
advise.

With circular logging, incremental backup will not backup the database unless 
the database's DBIID changes (a rare occurrence).  Selective backups to backup 
the changes along with occasional incremental, to inactivate deleted databases 
is the right way to go.


"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU> wrote on 08/21/2015
10:30:05 AM:

> From: "Loon, EJ van (ITOPT3) - KLM" <Eric-van.Loon AT KLM DOT COM>
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Date: 08/21/2015 10:33 AM
> Subject: Re: Data Protection for IBM Domino Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor 
> Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>
> Hi Frank!
> I indeed read that part of the manual, but it's all about transaction 
> logs and the 'logged databases' whatever that means.
> Nothing about what your backup strategy should be when circular 
> logging is used.
> So thank you very much for your reply, it's really appreciated! I will 
> advise my customer to switch to incremental backups.
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> AF/KLM Storage Engineering
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
> Of Frank Ramke
> Sent: vrijdag 21 augustus 2015 15:43
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: Data Protection for IBM Domino
>
> Eric,
>
> Just noticed your question was about circular logging....
>
> "The customer uses circular logging only for all Domino instances."
>
> With circular logging, we cannot backup transaction logs!
>
> Anyway  YES, Daily incrementals instead of Daily selectives with 
> occasional incremental is fine.  New and changed nsf files will be 
> backed up, deleted ones will be inactivated...
>
>
======================================================================================================

>
>
> This topic is found under "Backup Strategies" in the book.
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGSG7_7.1.0/
> com.ibm.itsm.mail.dom.win.doc/concept_domcbup3.html
>
> Sample Strategies
> ...
>
> Full backup plus transaction log archives
>    It is often not practical to back up entire databases with each 
> regular backup for large Domino installations. Archival logging 
> captures changes to all logged databases in the archived transaction 
> log files. Full database backups are run less frequently, reducing 
> burdens on network and storage resources. To implement this strategy:
> - Run regular log archives by running the archivelog command. The log 
> file does not fill and it captures changes to logged databases.
> - Run regular Incremental backups, which back up logged databases with 
> unchanged DBIIDs.
> - Run occasional Selective backups of all logged databases. The number 
> of transaction log files to be processed during a restore is
reduced.
> - Issue the inarchivelog command (following Selective backups) to 
> allow nonessential transaction log files to expire.
>
> The archivelog command captures changes to all logged databases in 
> between full backups of selected databases. To restore a database to 
> its most recent state, restore the most recent database backup and 
> specify /applylogs. All the necessary archived transaction log files 
> are restored so that updates for the database can be applied
>
>
>
> From:   "Loon, EJ van (ITOPT3) - KLM" <Eric-van.Loon AT KLM DOT COM>
> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Date:   08/21/2015 09:00 AM
> Subject:   Data Protection for IBM Domino
> Sent by:   "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>
>
>
> Hi guys!
> One of my customers uses Data Protection for IBM Domino for a few 
> years now. All mail instances are backed up daily with the domdsmc 
> selective command. I recently discovered that old deleted databases 
> were never removed from TSM, which seems to be caused by the fact that 
> we do selectives only. Only an occasional domdsmc incremental seems to 
> remove them.
> So I recommended the customer to implement an incremental backup once 
> a week. He now asks me "What if I run daily incrementals instead of 
> the selectives?" I don't know if that will work, nor can I find the 
> answer in the manuals...
> The customer uses circular logging only for all Domino instances.
> Thank you very much for your help in advance!
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> AF/KLM Storage Engineering
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