ADSM-L

Re: [ADSM-L] ANS4174E error

2015-03-05 15:42:41
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ANS4174E error
From: "McWilliams, Eric" <emcwilliams AT MEDSYNERGIES DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 20:40:38 +0000
Yes they were working at one point.  They started failing when they couldn't 
find the control file information.  That's what started all of this.

Apparently after setting up the domain (domain, policy set, management class, 
backup copy group), adding the VMMC and VMTLC options, and changing the data 
center node (VCENTER_COTX) to the new domain (VM_ACC) it is working correctly.  
I ran the backup using the dsmc command.  I had to make a couple of changes to 
the command because I have to do a full first so the control files will write 
to the new storage pool.  However, the backup is now working.

dsmc backup vm  -optfile=dsm_VCENTER_COTX_DM.opt -asnode=VCENTER_COTX 
-vmbackupt=full -mode=iffull

After all the setup the thing that actually fixed it was changing the data 
center node to the new domain name.


Eric McWilliams 
www.medsynergies.com


-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 12:46 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ANS4174E error

Well, I'm thoroughly confused.  
Your backups *were* working at one point, correct?

All I've ever had to do after setting up with the VE setup wizard, is to add 
VMMC and VMCTLMC to the dsm.opt of the data mover node in order to force the 
VMCTL info into the correct management class>storage pool.

DataMoverNode vs. DataCenterNode question:
You can have many datamover nodes; they all do backups *on behalf of* the Data 
Center node.
The DataCenterNode normally doesn't really exist except as a TSM node 
definition, but it owns all the filespaces (to verify, do:  q filespace 
datacenternode).

Here's my only suggestion at this point, to get down to the basics for 
debugging purposes:

-Log in to the datamover node VCENTER_COTX_DM -Open a CMD window -CD to program 
files/tivoli/tsm/baclient -Run a backup from the command line, pointing to the 
correct stuff:

dsmc backup vm   NAMEOF1VMGUEST   -optfile= dsm.VCENTER_COTX_DM.opt      
-asnode= VCENTER_COTX    -mode=ifi






-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
McWilliams, Eric
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 12:29 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ANS4174E error

The dsmcad starts fine now.

I changed the domain to VM_ACC but still get the same error when doing a 
backup.  I use the TSM for VMWARE UI to set up the backup and it uses the 
dsm.VCENTER_COTX_DM.opt file.  Am I confusing the data center node with the 
data mover node?
Node Name                   Platform            Policy Domain Name Days Since 
Last Access Days Since Password Set Locked?
VCENTER_COTX_DM TDP VMware    VM_ACC                         <1                 
                       13                                             No

Here is the complete dsm.VCENTER_COTX_DM.opt file
NODename                VCENTER_COTX_DM
PASSWORDAccess  generate
VMCHost         vcenter.medsyn.com
VMCUser         medsyn\_svc_TSMVM
TCPServeraddress        eaglerock.medsyn.com
TCPPort         1500
HTTPPORT                1581
COMMMethod              tcpip
MANAGEDServices webclient schedule
ERRORLOGName    "C:\Program 
Files\Tivoli\TSM\baclient\dsmerror.VCENTER_COTX_DM.log"
SCHEDLOGName    "C:\Program 
Files\Tivoli\TSM\baclient\dsmsched.VCENTER_COTX_DM.log"
ERRORLOGRETENTION 30 S
SCHEDLOGRETENTION 30 S
VMMAXParallel           8
VMMC                    VMDATA
VMCTLMC         VMCTL

Eric McWilliams 


-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 10:48 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ANS4174E error

Well, your Q CO shows that you have a management class VMDATA, and it has a 
valid backup copy group.
That makes me wonder if it's the domain that's incorrect?

When you run a backup with VE, you specify -ASNODE=dcenternode 
-optfile=optfilecontainingVMMC If you do Q NODE dcenternode, does it show 
DOMAIN=VM_ACC?

Or if it's your dsmcad that still won't start, that dsmcad points to a dsm.opt 
file In that dsm.opt file there is a NODENAME If you do Q NODE NODENAME, does 
it show DOMAIN=VM_ACC?



Wanda Prather
TSM Consultant
ICF International Enterprise and Cybersecurity Systems Division





-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
McWilliams, Eric
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 10:53 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ANS4174E error

Thanks.  I set it up close to yours.  Just tweaked some names for my 
environment.  However, when I try to run a backup I get this error message:

03/05/2015 09:37:53 ANS9388E The management class 'VMDATA' specified for the 
'VMMC' option is invalid, or does not have a backup copy group.

I know my management class is valid and it does have a backup copy group.

EAGLEROCK> q co vm_acc f=d

                 Policy Domain Name: VM_ACC
                    Policy Set Name: ACTIVE
                    Mgmt Class Name: VMCTL
                    Copy Group Name: STANDARD
                    Copy Group Type: Backup
               Versions Data Exists: 3
              Versions Data Deleted: 1
              Retain Extra Versions: 30
                Retain Only Version: 60
                          Copy Mode: Modified
                 Copy Serialization: Shared Static
                     Copy Frequency: 0
                   Copy Destination: VMCTLPOOL Table of Contents (TOC) 
Destination: 
     Last Update by (administrator): EMCWILLIAMS
              Last Update Date/Time: 2015-03-05, 09:18:16
                   Managing profile: 
                    Changes Pending: No

                 Policy Domain Name: VM_ACC
                    Policy Set Name: ACTIVE
                    Mgmt Class Name: VMDATA
                    Copy Group Name: STANDARD
                    Copy Group Type: Backup
               Versions Data Exists: 3
              Versions Data Deleted: 1
              Retain Extra Versions: 30
                Retain Only Version: 60
                          Copy Mode: Modified
                 Copy Serialization: Shared Static
                     Copy Frequency: 0
                   Copy Destination: BACKUPPOOL Table of Contents (TOC) 
Destination: 
     Last Update by (administrator): EMCWILLIAMS
              Last Update Date/Time: 2015-03-05, 09:19:04
                   Managing profile: 
                    Changes Pending: No


These are the options in my dsm.opt file:
VMMC                    VMDATA
VMCTLMC         VMCTL

Does anything jump out at you as being wrong?

Thanks for all your help.

Eric McWilliams
www.medsynergies.com


-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Rick Saylor
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 9:04 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ANS4174E error

Eric,

Yes, the data goes to the VMPOOL_DATA and the VM control information is sent to 
the VMPOOL_CTL pool(see below). Both management classes, VMDATA and VMCTL, fall 
under the same policy with VMDATA being the default class.

tsm: ADSM>q stg vm*

Storage         Device          Estimated       Pct       Pct
High     Low     Next Stora-
Pool Name       Class
Name       Capacity      Util      Migr      Mig     Mig     ge Pool
                                                                    Pct     Pct
-----------     ----------     ----------     -----     -----
----     ---     -----------
VMPOOL_CTL      DISK                200 G       0.9       0.9      100      99
VMPOOL_DATA     DISK              1,024
G      19.3      19.3       70       0     3584POOL6


Thanks,
Rick

At 08:41 AM 3/5/2015, McWilliams, Eric wrote:
>Rick,
>
>I did activate the policy set.  It appears I'm doing something else 
>wrong because the CAD won't even start after I put the VMMC and VMCTLMC 
>options in the dsm.opt file.
>
>I noticed on your copy destinations you have a VMPOOL_CTL and
>VMPOOL_DATA.   Is the VMPOOL_DATA where you are copying the actual VM backups?
>
>Thanks
>
>
>Eric McWilliams
>www.medsynergies.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
>Of Rick Saylor
>Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 3:46 PM
>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ANS4174E error
>
>Did you activate the policyset?
>
>I recently struggled with this problem too. Setting up and configuring 
>TSM/VE is confusing. I've included the output from my domain, 
>policysets, mgmtclass and copy groups. I hope it will help you figure 
>out what is missing.
>
>Rick Saylor
>Austin Community College
>
>tsm: ADSM>q co  vm*
>
>Policy      Policy      Mgmt        Copy        Versions   Versions
>    Retain    Retain
>Domain      Set
>Name    Class       Group           Data       Data      Extra      Only
>Name                    Name        Name          Exists    Deleted
>Versions   Version
>---------   ---------   ---------   ---------   --------   --------
>--------   -------
>VM_ACC      ACTIVE      VMCTL       STANDARD           3          1
>        30        60
>VM_ACC      ACTIVE      VMDATA      STANDARD           3          1
>        30        60
>VM_ACC      STANDARD    VMCTL       STANDARD           3          1
>        30        60
>VM_ACC      STANDARD    VMDATA      STANDARD           3          1
>        30        60
>
>tsm: ADSM>q do vm_acc f=d
>
>                Policy Domain Name: VM_ACC
>              Activated Policy Set: STANDARD
>              Activation Date/Time: 02/18/15   09:01:03
>             Days Since Activation: 12
>      Activated Default Mgmt Class: VMDATA
>        Number of Registered Nodes: 10
>                       Description: TSM for VE - Domain
>   Backup Retention (Grace Period): 30
>Archive Retention (Grace Period): 365
>    Last Update by (administrator): RSAYLOR
>             Last Update Date/Time: 02/18/15   09:01:03
>                  Managing profile:
>                   Changes Pending: No
>             Active Data Pool List:
>
>tsm: ADSM>q po vm_acc f=d
>
>              Policy Domain Name: VM_ACC
>                 Policy Set Name: ACTIVE
>         Default Mgmt Class Name: VMDATA
>                     Description: TSM for VE - Policy Last Update by
> (administrator): RSAYLOR
>           Last Update Date/Time: 02/18/15   08:59:40
>                Managing profile:
>                 Changes Pending: No
>
>              Policy Domain Name: VM_ACC
>                 Policy Set Name: STANDARD
>         Default Mgmt Class Name: VMDATA
>                     Description: TSM for VE - Policy Last Update by
> (administrator): RSAYLOR
>           Last Update Date/Time: 02/18/15   08:59:40
>                Managing profile:
>                 Changes Pending: No
>
>tsm: ADSM>q mgmt vm_acc f=d
>
>              Policy Domain Name: VM_ACC
>                 Policy Set Name: ACTIVE
>                 Mgmt Class Name: VMCTL
>            Default Mgmt Class ?: No
>                     Description: TSM for VE - Control information 
> management class
>      Space Management Technique: None
>         Auto-Migrate on Non-Use: 0
>      Migration Requires Backup?: Yes
>           Migration Destination: SPACEMGPOOL Last Update by
> (administrator): RSAYLOR
>           Last Update Date/Time: 02/18/15   08:59:38
>                Managing profile:
>                 Changes Pending: No
>
>              Policy Domain Name: VM_ACC
>                 Policy Set Name: ACTIVE
>                 Mgmt Class Name: VMDATA
>            Default Mgmt Class ?: Yes
>                     Description: TSM for VE - Data management class
>      Space Management Technique: None
>         Auto-Migrate on Non-Use: 0
>      Migration Requires Backup?: Yes
>           Migration Destination: SPACEMGPOOL Last Update by
> (administrator): RSAYLOR
>           Last Update Date/Time: 02/18/15   08:59:37
>                Managing profile:
>                 Changes Pending: No
>
>              Policy Domain Name: VM_ACC
>                 Policy Set Name: STANDARD
>                 Mgmt Class Name: VMCTL
>            Default Mgmt Class ?: No
>                     Description: TSM for VE - Control information 
> management class
>      Space Management Technique: None
>         Auto-Migrate on Non-Use: 0
>      Migration Requires Backup?: Yes
>           Migration Destination: SPACEMGPOOL Last Update by
> (administrator): RSAYLOR
>         Auto-Migrate on Non-Use: 0
>      Migration Requires Backup?: Yes
>           Migration Destination: SPACEMGPOOL Last Update by
> (administrator): RSAYLOR
>           Last Update Date/Time: 02/18/15   08:59:37
>                Managing profile:
>                 Changes Pending: No
>
>              Policy Domain Name: VM_ACC
>                 Policy Set Name: STANDARD
>                 Mgmt Class Name: VMCTL
>            Default Mgmt Class ?: No
>                     Description: TSM for VE - Control information 
> management class
>      Space Management Technique: None
>         Auto-Migrate on Non-Use: 0
>      Migration Requires Backup?: Yes
>           Migration Destination: SPACEMGPOOL Last Update by
> (administrator): RSAYLOR
>           Last Update Date/Time: 02/18/15   08:59:38
>                Managing profile:
>                 Changes Pending: No
>
>              Policy Domain Name: VM_ACC
>                 Policy Set Name: STANDARD
>                 Mgmt Class Name: VMDATA
>            Default Mgmt Class ?: Yes
>                     Description: TSM for VE - Data management class
>      Space Management Technique: None
>         Auto-Migrate on Non-Use: 0
>      Migration Requires Backup?: Yes
>           Migration Destination: SPACEMGPOOL Last Update by
> (administrator): RSAYLOR
>           Last Update Date/Time: 02/18/15   08:59:37
>                Managing profile:
>                 Changes Pending: No
>
>tsm: ADSM>q co vm_acc f=d
>
>                   Policy Domain Name: VM_ACC
>                      Policy Set Name: ACTIVE
>                      Mgmt Class Name: VMCTL
>                      Copy Group Name: STANDARD
>                      Copy Group Type: Backup
>                 Versions Data Exists: 3
>
>                Versions Data Deleted: 1
>                Retain Extra Versions: 30
>                  Retain Only Version: 60
>                            Copy Mode: Modified
>                   Copy Serialization: Shared Static
>                       Copy Frequency: 0
>                     Copy Destination: VMPOOL_CTL Table of Contents
> (TOC) Destination:
>       Last Update by (administrator): RSAYLOR
>                Last Update Date/Time: 02/18/15   08:59:45
>                     Managing profile:
>                      Changes Pending: No
>
>                   Policy Domain Name: VM_ACC
>                      Policy Set Name: ACTIVE
>                      Mgmt Class Name: VMDATA
>                      Copy Group Name: STANDARD
>                      Copy Group Type: Backup
>                 Versions Data Exists: 3
>                Versions Data Deleted: 1
>                Retain Extra Versions: 30
>                  Retain Only Version: 60
>                            Copy Mode: Modified
>                   Copy Serialization: Shared Static
>                       Copy Frequency: 0
>                     Copy Destination: VMPOOL_DATA Table of Contents
> (TOC) Destination:
>       Last Update by (administrator): RSAYLOR
>                Last Update Date/Time: 02/18/15   08:59:42
>                     Managing profile:
>                      Changes Pending: No
>
>                   Policy Domain Name: VM_ACC
>                      Policy Set Name: STANDARD
>                      Mgmt Class Name: VMCTL
>                      Copy Group Name: STANDARD
>                      Copy Group Type: Backup
>                 Versions Data Exists: 3
>                Versions Data Deleted: 1
>                Retain Extra Versions: 30
>                  Retain Only Version: 60
>                            Copy Mode: Modified
>                   Copy Serialization: Shared Static
>                       Copy Frequency: 0
>                     Copy Destination: VMPOOL_CTL Table of Contents
> (TOC) Destination:
>       Last Update by (administrator): RSAYLOR
>                Last Update Date/Time: 02/18/15   08:59:45
>                     Managing profile:
>                      Changes Pending: No
>
>                   Policy Domain Name: VM_ACC
>                      Policy Set Name: STANDARD
>                      Mgmt Class Name: VMDATA
>                      Copy Group Name: STANDARD
>                      Copy Group Type: Backup
>                 Versions Data Exists: 3
>                Versions Data Deleted: 1
>                Retain Extra Versions: 30
>                  Retain Only Version: 60
>                            Copy Mode: Modified
>                   Copy Serialization: Shared Static
>                       Copy Frequency: 0
>                     Copy Destination: VMPOOL_DATA Table of Contents
> (TOC) Destination:
>       Last Update by (administrator): RSAYLOR
>                Last Update Date/Time: 02/18/15   08:59:42
>                     Managing profile:
>                      Changes Pending: No
>
>
>At 01:32 PM 3/2/2015, you wrote:
> >I've created a management class and added it to the dsm.opt file.
> >
> >VMCTLMC VMCTL_MC
> >
> >However, when I run the backups I get this error:
> >
> >03/02/2015 09:27:03 ANS9388E The management class 'VMCTL_MC'
> >specified for the 'VMCTLMC' option is invalid, or does not have a 
> >backup copy group.
> >03/02/2015 09:27:03 ANS1105E The management class for this file does 
> >not have a valid backup copy group.
> >This file will not be backed up.
> >
> >tsm: EAGLEROCK>q co vmctl vmctl_ps vmctl_mc t=b f=d
> >
> >                  Policy Domain Name: VMCTL
> >                     Policy Set Name: VMCTL_PS
> >                     Mgmt Class Name: VMCTL_MC
> >                     Copy Group Name: STANDARD
> >                     Copy Group Type: Backup
> >                Versions Data Exists: 5
> >               Versions Data Deleted: 2
> >               Retain Extra Versions: 30
> >                 Retain Only Version: 60
> >                           Copy Mode: Modified
> >                  Copy Serialization: Shared Static
> >                      Copy Frequency: 0
> >                    Copy Destination: VMCTLPOOL Table of Contents
> >(TOC)
> >Destination:
> >      Last Update by (administrator): EMCWILLIAMS
> >               Last Update Date/Time: 03/02/2015 09:17:52
> >                    Managing profile:
> >                     Changes Pending: No
> >
> >I know the management class is valid and and when I query the copy 
> >group it is STANDARD.  Now, the documentation says that it must be 
> >STANDARD but this doesn't make much sense to me.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Eric
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
> >Of Prather, Wanda
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:32 PM
> >To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> >Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ANS4174E error
> >
> >Each backup session backs up some control information, and that 
> >information is restored for use during the next backup.  (You can see 
> >the restores happening if you watch the server during the backup, or 
> >if you look in the accounting info.)
> >
> >I'm just guessing, but I suspect  that the "data unavailable on server"
> >is because it can't restore that control info.
> >Perhaps some volumes in your disk pool are offline, or the control 
> >information has migrated off to tape?
> >
> >If the latter, you need to put these keywords in the dsm.opt on your
> >datamover:
> >
> >VMMC    your-mgmt-class-for-data-goes-here
> >VMCTLMC         your-mgmt-class-for-control-info-goes-here
> >
> >The control info mgmt. class should point to a small disk pool that 
> >can't migrate to tape.
> >
> >Wanda Prather
> >TSM Consultant
> >ICF International Enterprise and Cybersecurity Systems Division
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
> >Of McWilliams, Eric
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:16 AM
> >To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> >Subject: [ADSM-L] ANS4174E error
> >
> >I'm trying to back up some VM's using DP for VM 7.1.1.0 and am 
> >getting an error on some of the VM's and the backup is failing.  I've 
> >asked Uncle Google and can't find much.  I would contact IBM support 
> >but I get very little help from them as well.
> >
> >02/25/2015 09:35:07 ANS9351E Data was not available on server and
> was skipped.
> >02/25/2015 09:35:07 ANS4174E Full VM backup of VMware Virtual Machine 
> >'Hamilton' failed with RC=14 mode=Incremental Forever - Incremental, 
> >target node name='VCENTER_COTX', data mover node name='VCENTER_COTX_DM'
> >02/25/2015 09:35:08
> >02/25/2015 09:35:08 ANS1228E Sending of object 'Hamilton' failed.
> >02/25/2015 09:35:08 ANS1314E File data currently unavailable on 
> >server
> >
> >Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Eric
> >
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