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Re: [ADSM-L] TSM AC and OC and 7.1.1 Was: RE: [ADSM-L] TSM rant

2015-01-31 10:31:17
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM AC and OC and 7.1.1 Was: RE: [ADSM-L] TSM rant
From: Hans Christian Riksheim <bullhcr AT GMAIL DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:30:16 +0100
We have tried OC twice and are not happy and that is due to its design.

Other 3d party monitoring/administration tools we use are completely
separate from the TSM server environment and only talks to TSM through an
API(dsmcad/SQL). This means that any bug fix or feature enhancement in the
administration tools can be deployed without touching the TSM environment.
When we have reported bugs in the tools we have obtained fixes quickly, one
time a patch was ready the day after we reported the bug.

OC on the other hand is tightly integrated with the TSM server code itself.
That means two things. First we have to take down and upgrade our TSM
servers to the bleeding edge only to fix things with OC. That is an
administrative burden and also a huge risk. Second problem is the time from
a bug is detected to a patch is available. The bug with caching diskpool
was discovered in 6.4.1 but a fix wasn't ready before the 6.3.5 server
code. That is one year for something which should take a developer 5
minutes to fix(select on wrong column).

With 10 years of ISC/Admin Center and now OC we will not waste any more
time on IBMs administrative tools. And with the recent progress of TSM
itself we have to think long and hard on what to do before our current
license period is up.

Regards

Hans Chr.



On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 4:07 AM, Prather, Wanda <Wanda.Prather AT icfi DOT com>
wrote:

> Hi Jeanne,
>
> We are in a transition as the OC is getting more function with each
> release, but doesn't yet have everything the AC had.
>
> The OC is the new/current admin GUI.  The 7.1.1 version has client
> scheduling in it now, so it can do more of the admin tasks you need.
> In the 7.1.1 version you can view management classes and maintenance plan,
> but still can't change them.  That will come in a later release of the OC.
>
> The old AC has been "stabilized" at 6.3 and will not be developed further,
> but can still be used.
> If you put on the latest AC patch level from the FTP site (6.3.5), you can
> talk to your 7.1 server with it (minus any new function since 6.3, of
> course).
>
>
> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/admincenter/v6r3/6.3.5.000/
>
> So you probably want to put the patch on your AC so you can keep using it
> for mgmt. classes and basic functions with your 7.1.1 server, while you
> also install the 7.1.1 OC and start getting used to it for basic
> administration, and taking advantage of the new visualization and
> monitoring it provides that the AC never did.
>
> Wanda Prather
> TSM Consultant
> ICF International Enterprise and Cybersecurity Systems Division
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
> Of
> Jeanne Bruno
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:31 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM rant
>
> For Windows version 7.1.1.00 is it now called TSM "Operations Center"??
> 7.1.1.000-TIV-TSMOC-Windows.exe
>
> I want to upgrade from v 6.3.3 to v7.1 for Admin Server and the OC was all
> I found.......is this what you've found also??
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
> Of
> Stef Coene
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:24 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM rant
>
> On Thursday 29 January 2015 21:14:08 you wrote:
> > FWIW,
> > I've also been through a lot of problems with dedup, it has been
> > disappointing. On TSM servers not using dedup I haven't seen many
> > problems at the latest levels.
> >
> > Curious to know what you just installed?
> > On 7.1.1 on Windows, select * from processes works just fine...
> Fresh install:
> Server Version 7, Release 1, Level 1.100 Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server
> release 6.6 (Santiago)
>
>
> Stef
>

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