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Re: [ADSM-L] tsm administration via web

2014-09-23 15:53:54
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tsm administration via web
From: "Prather, Wanda" <Wanda.Prather AT ICFI DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:52:40 +0000
For the 7.1 package there is a parm to bypass the min requirements on install, 
I'll see if I can find that link.
W

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Rhodes, Richard L.
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 3:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tsm administration via web


>What has been suggested by sneaky folks, is that you could very easily 
>install TSM 7.1.1 on a tiny doesn't-run-any-backups TSM server, to be 
>your HUB server.  Then it could manage a "spoke" TSM 6.3.4 or higher 
>server.

Gee, just what we were talking about! 

To ask the next sneeky/unofficial question, just what would the resources on a 
VM need to be for a minimal TSM to just run TOC (memory, disk for db2, other)? 

Thanks 

Rick




-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 3:00 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: tsm administration via web

For all the things they are adding into the TOC (TSM Operations Center), they 
had to add new tables and functions in the TSM server itself (Which is why it 
has some cool stuff we've never had before!  The TOC developers are just 
awesome!)  

That means you always have to have the TOC talking to a TSM server at a level 
that has those mods, shown in the table that Erwann provided the link for 
below, and I suspect it will be the same for 7.1.1 and likely going forward.  
But that's just for the top level or "hub" TOC TSM server.  You can have a 
hub-and-spoke configuration.

The TOC is very lightweight, and if you have a single TSM sever the most common 
thing is to run the TOC on the same machine as your TSM server.  But the TOC 
can manage other "spoke" TSM servers, as that link below shows.     

What has been suggested by sneaky folks, is that you could very easily install 
TSM 7.1.1 on a tiny doesn't-run-any-backups TSM server, to be your HUB server.  
Then it could manage a "spoke" TSM 6.3.4 or higher server.  

And FWIW that tiny TSM can even be a VM.  The TSM server is supported on VMware 
if there are no tape drivERs in use.  

W

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Erwann SIMON
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 2:21 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tsm administration via web

Hi David,

See :
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21640917

Unfortunately, this technote has not been updated with 7.1.1 informations yet.

Le 23/09/2014 19:17, David Ehresman a écrit :
> Can the 7.1.1 OpCenter be run with pre-7.1 servers?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
> Of Prather, Wanda
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 12:49 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tsm administration via web
>
> The ISC is on the FTP site, under Maintenance\admincenter.
> But I don't recommend it.
>
> You should know it has been "stabilized" at 6.3.  There is a 7.1 version on 
> the site which has been patched to work with a 7.1 server, but it has no 7.1 
> function and it will never be updated any more.
>
> It also has never been upgraded to run with any IE later than IE8 or 
> Firefox 3.6.  (Although I've gotten good results using IE10, press 
> F12, then choosing IE8 compatibility mode.)
>
> Just don't go the ISC route.  It's dead. (FINALLY!!!!)
>
> And, the Operations Center which came out Sep 12 (the 7.1.1 version) really 
> has a lot of the functions you want, including client scheduling now, and 
> will be further developed.
> They have a live demo up that you can show your Winders folks.
> https://www.ibmserviceengage.com/on-premises-solutions
>
>
> Wanda
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
> Of Lee, Gary
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:58 AM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tsm administration via web
>
> Guess I am referring to the isc.
>
> We are running tsm 6.2.5 on redhat enterprise 6.1.
>
> I use the command line client exclusively, but the windows folks want 
> something gui.
>
> I went looking, but its been so long since I used it, where do you find the 
> isc?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
> Of Skylar Thompson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 9:32 AM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tsm administration via web
>
> Are you thinking of the ISC? I started out administering TSM through that, 
> but it was finicky enough that I ended up using the CLI and haven't looked 
> back since.
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:12:15PM +0000, Lee, Gary wrote:
>> What is the Tivoli product called for administering tsm via a web based gui?
>>
>> I don't really care, but my boss wants me to evaluate gui tsm management 
>> products.
>>
>> What is the sens of the list?  IBM, or third party, if so what third party?
> --
> -- Skylar Thompson (skylar2 AT u.washington DOT edu)
> -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator
> -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354
> -- University of Washington School of Medicine


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