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Re: [ADSM-L] Sending TSM backups to the cloud

2014-08-19 09:57:44
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Sending TSM backups to the cloud
From: "Lepre, James" <james.lepre AT SOLIXINC DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:55:46 +0000
The purchase for the 730 unit was around $45,000 which give you 

8TB of local space on the Riverbed unit itself, and 20TB in the cloud..

The good thing is if the riverbed unit fills up it will evict data to the cloud 
so you never actually fill up the unit.

However, when eviction occurs it does make tsm reclamation challenging because 
the evicted volume is not a whole volume, you will need to recall the data on a 
particular volume before reclaiming it.  I have only had to do this a few times 
over the course of the year I have had this unit.  

Disaster Recovery is a breeze, they have a virtual unit you install at your DR 
location, point it to the cloud and you are off an running

James Lepre
Infrastructure Support Specialist
Solix, Inc. | 30 Lanidex Plaza West | Parsippany, NJ 07054
T: 973.581.5362 | F: 973.599.6544
www.solixinc.com | Solix on Facebook | Solix on Twitter



-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Zoltan Forray
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 8:30 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Sending TSM backups to the cloud

Thanks for the info.  Can you give me some idea of cost?  Is it a one-time 
purchase?


On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Lepre, James <james.lepre AT solixinc DOT com>
wrote:

> We are using Whitewater.. Setup is very easy... Deduplication is about 
> 3-5x depending on type of data..
>
> You can uses any cloud storage including Amazon Glacier... We are 
> using S3 since the price drop.. all in all good product and they have 
> partnered with IBM so makes things a little easier
>
> James Lepre
> Infrastructure Support Specialist
> Solix, Inc. | 30 Lanidex Plaza West | Parsippany, NJ 07054
> T: 973.581.5362 | F: 973.599.6544
> www.solixinc.com | Solix on Facebook | Solix on Twitter
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
> Of Lee, Gary
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 4:09 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Sending TSM backups to the cloud
>
> We just finished a trial of the panzura box using amazon storage.
>
> Setup was quite easy.  Configured the box with a ssl cert, pointed it 
> to our amazon account, and configured its nfs settings.
> Then mounted it to our tsm server and set up a sequencial pool to 
> point to that mount point.
>
> We did just a copy stg to the cloud storage pool.
>
> Only got about 1.3 to 1 dedup ratio using the quicksilver's native 
> deduplication.
>
> However, worked well, and was absolutely no trouble.
>
> However, be ready for long wait times on restore if the data is not 
> cached in the quicksilver's local disk space.
>
> We killed our box completely to simulate a disaster with the box.  
> Then, reconfigured the panzura and did a volume restore. Much much 
> much slower than local tape.
> Not a bandwidth problem as we have multiple gigbits to our providers.
> Feel free to email or call if you have further questions.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
> Of Zoltan Forray
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 4:01 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: [ADSM-L] Sending TSM backups to the cloud
>
> My boss is doing some "pie in the sky" and wondered about using cloud 
> storage like Amazon for  extra, non-tape based offsite active-data copies.
>
> Anybody doing or thinking of doing this?
>
> My quick research shows the need for an appliance to interface between 
> the TSM storage and the cloud/Amazon.  Two I found were "Panzura 
> Global Clouse Storage System" and "Riverbed Whitewater".
>
> I have never having dealt with activedata storage pools, so please 
> correct me if I am wrong.  From what I gather, I would setup a 
> sequential pool and either/or perform "copy activedata" from the 
> primary pool and/or update the primary storage pool to automagically 
> replicate inbound traffic to the activedata pool.  Also requires 
> changing the policy domains to identify what goes in the activedata pool?  Is 
> this a one-to-one or many-to-one?
>
> Also, since we are using storage based licensing, is the activedata 
> figured into the total occupancy or is it ignored since it really is 
> just a copy of what is in the primary storage pools and things like 
> copypools aren't counted?
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> --
> *Zoltan Forray*
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> BigBro / Hobbit / Xymon Administrator
> Virginia Commonwealth University
> UCC/Office of Technology Services
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--
*Zoltan Forray*
TSM Software & Hardware Administrator
BigBro / Hobbit / Xymon Administrator
Virginia Commonwealth University
UCC/Office of Technology Services
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