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Re: [ADSM-L] Wrong estimation for VTL

2014-08-09 10:13:11
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Wrong estimation for VTL
From: "Prather, Wanda" <Wanda.Prather AT ICFI DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 14:11:41 +0000
The estimated capacity shown in Q STGPOOL output is pretty much 
useless/misleading for sequential pools, as it's based on the MAXSCRATCH value 
for the pool, plus other factors.

See the admin ref pages for Q STGPOOL output field descriptions.

W  


-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Grigori Solonovitch
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 12:39 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Wrong estimation for VTL

Thank you very much for response.
I agree with you totally, but estimated capacity is wrong in TSM for many 
primary pools allocated on Data Domain VTL. For example, for 128 tapes with 
size 64GB (max 8192GB) it gives "Estimated Capacity: 18,191 G".
Any comments?

Grigori Solonovitch, Senior Systems Architect, IT, Ahli United Bank Kuwait, 
www.ahliunited.com.kw

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Huebner, Andy
Sent: 07 08 2014 12:42 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Wrong estimation for VTL

One note to consider with DataDomain.  The tape has no compression from the TSM 
perspective.  If you create 100GB tapes, the estimated capacity in TSM should 
be 100GB.  TSM will store 100GB on a tape.

Andy Huebner

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Grigori Solonovitch
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:08 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Wrong estimation for VTL

Thank you very much for RFE and information. I will try to modify device 
classes.

Grigori Solonovitch, Senior Systems Architect, IT, Ahli United Bank Kuwait, 
www.ahliunited.com.kw

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Grant Street
Sent: 06 08 2014 9:30 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Wrong estimation for VTL

The following is how TSM handles tapes, I assume VTL would be the same.

Essentially the estimated capacity is assigned to the tape when it is allocated 
to a stgpool and loaded into the drive.
This value is determined from the device class    "Est/Max Capacity (MB)"

TSM will not update the capacity again untill it has reached the End Of Tape.

I have put in an rfe 31662 so that TSM would (better) estimate tape capacity.
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=31662

The best solution would be to align the estimated capacity for the device class 
with the actual data size you expect to fit on a tape.

Grant

On 06/08/14 15:37, Grigori Solonovitch wrote:
> TSM 6.3.3.100
> VTL on Data Domain
> I have found wrong "Estimated Capacity:" for primary storage pools on VTL ( 
> for example, for pool with 128 * 64 = 8192GB it gives estimated capacity 
> 18,191 GB in "query stg", but it is impossible).
> As a result storage pool utilization is calculated wrongly as well.
> What is the source of problem?
> Data Domain deduplication or something else?
> Shall I ignore this problem?
>
> Grigori Solonovitch, Senior Systems Architect, IT, Ahli United Bank 
> Kuwait, www.ahliunited.com.kw
>
>
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