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Re: [ADSM-L] Exchange Incremental Expiry

2014-06-27 10:24:16
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Exchange Incremental Expiry
From: "Meunier, Yann" <yann.meunier AT CAISSEDESDEPOTS DOT FR>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 14:22:24 +0000
Hi,

Unfortunately, full and incremental cycles are managed dissociated on exchange 
backups
On exchange backups, fulls can expired while incrementals are still active.
So, we have the same management class for the full and incremental

Best Regards,

Yann MEUNIER
Ingénierie - Système Stockage
Informatique CDC - Etablissement DPI
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De : ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] De la part de 
Gee, Norman
Envoyé : vendredi 27 juin 2014 08:00
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Objet : Re: [ADSM-L] Exchange Incremental Expiry

So the question becomes "When is the incremental backup marked inactive?"  Does 
it even make sense for an incremental to have a different retention to a full?

When the next full is done.  No it does not make sense to be different.

For example

My full backups will expire x days after the next full backups is started. All 
of the incrementals that depends on the previous full expires x day after the 
next full have completed.  At the time the next full completes, all of the 
previous incremental backups are mark inactive.




-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Steven Harris
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:31 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Exchange Incremental Expiry

Hi Again

Further to my last, the customer for which I am designing exchange backups has 
until now been a Domino shop.  Previously we have taken a Weekly 
selective/daily incremental for the databases (remembering that an incremental 
on Domino only backs up new databases and those that aren't logged) plus daily 
or more frequent log backups.  The database management class keeps for 18 
months.  The logs are kept for 100 days.

I'm now supposed to implement this in Exchange.  I can do a weekly full/daily 
incremental with no problem and put them to different management classes as I 
do for Domino, however the TDP for Exchange manual states

Incremental object names are always unique. These names contain qualifiers 
whose values make them unique. Incremental object names are generated at the 
time of the backup and therefore are not predictable and cannot be specified.

So the question becomes "When is the incremental backup marked inactive?"  Does 
it even make sense for an incremental to have a different retention to a full?

IIRC the same applies with MSSQL and the client deletes the logs when the full 
on which they depend is no longer on the server.  If that is the case for 
exchange then there is no point in a different retention for incrementals.

Please chime in if you know

Thanks

Steve.

Steven Harris
TSM Admin
Canberra Australia.
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