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Re: [ADSM-L] TSM for VE and "monthly fulls"

2014-04-08 12:30:00
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM for VE and "monthly fulls"
From: Michael Hedden <mhedden AT BELLSOUTH DOT NET>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 09:28:03 -0700
John,
A suggested process to do a monthly backup is to back up the guest to a 
different datacenter node name (asnodename)using the option -mode=iffull. The 
iffull backup should not reset the CBT.

The daily backups continue to the original datacenter node name using the 
option -mode=ifincr.

See example below: (hope the formatting comes out ok)
Datacenter Node            Month 1, days 1-30        Last Weekend of Month    
    Month 2, days 1-30    Last Weekend of Month        etc...
Daily_backup_node            -mode=ifincr                                
                      -mode=ifincr    
Monthly_bakcup_node                                   -mode=iffull            
                            -mode=iffull                etc..
        
Let me know if this does not work or if there are any problems.

Mike Hedden



________________________________
 From: John Monahan <John.Monahan AT US.LOGICALIS DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU 
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: TSM for VE and "monthly fulls"
 

I only had to do a one-time backup so I never did come up with something else. 
I'm going to ask about this at Edge.



_______________________________________
John Monahan
Professional Services Consultant
Logicalis, Inc. 



-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 3:49 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: TSM for VE and "monthly fulls"

OH, bimps.
Glad to know that before I did all the work, you just saved me a lot of effort 
and I thank you.

So when you got down that road, what did you end up doing instead?

Only other thing I can think of is to install the BA client in the guest and do 
an incremental once a month?

W


-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
John Monahan
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:47 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM for VE and "monthly fulls"

If you backup to a different nodename you will reset the CBT info. So you can 
do that monthly full backup to the different nodename, but when you switch back 
to the original, it will also require a full. So in essence you need to do 2 
back to back fulls to get this done. I've been down this road. 



_______________________________________
John Monahan
Professional Services Consultant
Logicalis, Inc. 



-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 11:43 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: TSM for VE and "monthly fulls"

Would like to know if anyone has solved the conundrum of TSM VE and customers 
who want "monthly fulls" in the vault for a year or more.

Now I know that's a bad idea, and it doesn't play well with TSM 
incremental-forever.  But still there are customers who insist, or have 
managers with ill-thought-out pseudo-requirements for it, or parent firms who 
insist on it.  And I can work those issues with backupsets or exports or 
nodename-monthly node owners or sometimes even archives for other types of data.

But I have not been able to do an export on deduped VE filespaces.  It takes so 
long and puts on so many locks it has to be cancelled.
So I'm pondering the idea of doing a true VM full, to a different datamover 
with a different filespace owner.  But I don't really like that idea either 
because the full will have the snapshot outstanding for a long time, and the 
scheduling will be tricky so we don't overlap the incremental snapshots.

SO, anybody else have insight into this particular can of worms?

Thanks
Wanda

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