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Re: [ADSM-L] file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device

2014-02-17 01:15:39
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device
From: "Prather, Wanda" <Wanda.Prather AT ICFI DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 06:13:39 +0000
Oh, that works just fine.  Then you're backing up over NFS, no NDMP involved.
And TSM will not back up an NFS-mounted volume by default, so you won't get 
multiple copies.

Put the virtualmountpoint names in the DOMAIN statement in dsm.sys  of the 
client you want to run the backups (or create dsmc incr commands that list the 
sharenames, however you roll), fight through whatever permissions issues pop 
up, and Bob's your uncle.  You'll get incremental-only backups of those files.

What you won't know for a while, is how long it takes to noodle through the 
filesystems across the NFS mount- depends on how many kazillion objects in the 
directories.
If you list the names in the DOMAIN statement, you can add "RESOURCEUTILIZATION 
10" to the dsm.sys and process 4 shares at once, if the directory noodling is 
more time consuming than the actual data transfer, which it usually is if these 
shares are made of a lot of small files.

If you can't get through them by running 4 at a time, I've solved that before 
by setting up multiple proxy clients (using GRANT PROXYNODE), to get even more 
parallel streams running, but with all the backups stored under 1 nodename so 
that it's easy to find them at restore time.

W   
 
 
 

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Dury, John C.
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 3:46 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device

We are more concerned about file level backups than an image backup. Eventually 
the NAS devices will be replicating using Equallogic replication once we get 
some more storage but for now, we want to make sure that the files in the NFS 
shares are correctly backed up but I really wanted to avoid backing up the same 
NFS data to multiple TSM nodes since some of the NFS mount are shared amongst 
several servers/nodes. My strategy is to pick one TSM node and make sure it has 
NFS mounts for all of the NFS that live on the NAS and then just backup it up 
as virtualmountpoint(s) so something like this

/NAS exists off of root on TSM node and is local

mount NFS1 as /NAS/NFS1

mount NFS2 as /NAS/NFS2

etc



put entry in dsm.sys virtualmountpoint /NAS

and then just let incrementals run normally.

All restores would need to be done on the NODE that can see all of the NFS 
mounts.

Think that will work?













I agree with Wanda. Our strategy for our filers (BlueARC, Isilon) is to

backup at the file-level exclusively, using NFS. Modern TSM servers support

no-query restores well enough that we can get a restore of the latest data

very quickly (make sure you have plenty of CPU and memory, along with very

fast database disks). To perform the backups efficiently, you might want to

think about splitting your data up into separate nodes or filespaces,

backed up with independent schedules, so that you're not bottlenecked on a

single component.



As far as I can tell, NDMP was written by storage vendors to make one buy

more expensive storage, and more of it than one needs.





You don't have to use tape.

You can do NDMP backups via TCP/IP to your regular TSM storage pool hierarchy.

But AFAIK you still have to do it at the volume/share level that the NAS device

understands, I don't think you can do it at the root.



Using "virtualmountpoint" is for backing up incrementally at the *file* level

via NFS or CIFS mounts, not NDMP, so I'm not sure which way you are headed.



Question is, what are you doing this for?

NDMP is a stupid, simplistic protocol.  You won't like what you have to do to

achieve an individual file restore.  If you are trying to get DR capability to

rebuild your NDMP shares in case of an emergency, it makes sense.  If you are

just trying to provide backup coverage to restore people's files like you would

from a file server, it may not.



If you want to do NDMP via TCP/IP instead of direct to tape, reply with your

TSM server platform and server level, and I'll send you back the page reference

in the manual you need...



W









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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of

Dury, John C.

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:11 PM

To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU

Subject: [ADSM-L] file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device



We have two Dell NDMP storage devices and a TSM server at both sites. We'd like

to be able to root file level (image backups don't help much) backups (and

restores if necessary) of the entire  NDMP device to the local TSM server. Can

someone point me in the right direction or tell me how they did it? NAS/NDMP is

pretty new to me and from what I have read so far, the documentation talks

about backing up directly to tape, which we don't have any more.  All of our

storage is online.



What I was originally planning on doing, was creating all of the NFS shares on

one linux server, and backing them up as /virtualmountpoints. I'd like to setup

just one which points to the root of all the NFS systems on the NAS device but

I see no way to do that either.

Any help is appreciated.

Op 13 feb. 2014, om 20:11 heeft Dury, John C. <JDury AT DUQLIGHT DOT COM> het 
volgende geschreven:

> We have two Dell NDMP storage devices and a TSM server at both sites. 
> We'd like to be able to root file level (image backups don't help 
> much) backups (and restores if necessary) of the entire  NDMP device 
> to the local TSM server. Can someone point me in the right direction 
> or tell me how they did it? NAS/NDMP is pretty new to me and from what 
> I have read so far, the documentation talks about backing up directly 
> to tape, which we don't have any more.  All of our storage is online.
>
> What I was originally planning on doing, was creating all of the NFS 
> shares on one linux server, and backing them up as 
> /virtualmountpoints. I'd like to setup just one which points to the 
> root of all the NFS systems on the NAS device but I see no way to do that 
> either.
> Any help is appreciated.


if supported by the Dell, NDMP to disk is even simpler than NDMP to tape...
just don't define any paths from the datamover to tape (which you don't have 
any way)....

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