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Re: [ADSM-L] Why are my "temp" files being backed up?

2012-04-18 08:49:02
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Why are my "temp" files being backed up?
From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU <zforray AT VCU DOT EDU>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:47:02 -0400
Unfortunately, the Q INCLEXCL is rather long (>230 lines) so I probably
shouldn't post it here.  There are a bunch of application database file
specific excludes (says "Operating System") plus various other SQL
excludes.

I added the suggested additional "temp/tmp" excludes and last nights run
does not show any "temp" files being excluded.  I still get the "out of
memory" error, thought.


Zoltan Forray
TSM Software & Hardware Administrator
Virginia Commonwealth University
UCC/Office of Technology Services
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From:   Andrew Raibeck <storman AT US.IBM DOT COM>
To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date:   04/17/2012 05:12 PM
Subject:        Re: [ADSM-L] Why are my "temp" files being backed up?
Sent by:        "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>



Zoltan,

OK... so can we see a complete Q INCLEXCL output for the node?

Also, what happens if you try to manually back up data in a temp
directory?
Does it back them up? Or do you see messages that indicate the files are
excluded?

   dsmc s "C:\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local Settings\Temp\*" -su=y

I would expect if the excludes are properly set up, you'll see messages
indicating the files are excluded.

Best regards,

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/[email protected]
Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/Overview/Software/Tivoli/Tivoli_Storage_Manager


"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT vm.marist DOT edu> wrote on 2012-04-17
16:22:13:

> From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU <zforray AT VCU DOT EDU>
> To: ADSM-L AT vm.marist DOT edu,
> Date: 2012-04-17 16:24
> Subject: Re: Why are my "temp" files being backed up?
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT vm.marist DOT edu>
>
> Andy,
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> No includes in these CLOPTSET's.  They are used to force global excludes
> of things like the AntiVirus we use,  SQL files/directories on servers
> that have MS-SQL and use the TDP and various other Windows files
> (ntuser.dat, usrclass.dat, etc).
>
>
> Zoltan Forray
> TSM Software & Hardware Administrator
> Virginia Commonwealth University
> UCC/Office of Technology Services
> zforray AT vcu DOT edu - 804-828-4807
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>
>
> From:   Andrew Raibeck <storman AT US.IBM DOT COM>
> To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Date:   04/17/2012 03:06 PM
> Subject:        Re: [ADSM-L] Why are my "temp" files being backed up?
> Sent by:        "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>
>
>
> Hi Zoltan,
>
> A couple of things:
>
> 1. If your TSM clients use multiple nodes or options files, make sure
that
> the "q inclexcl" you do is for the same node and options file that are
> used
> during the backup; and that the scheduled backup is using the intended
> node
> name and options file.
>
> 2. Check the order in which the include/exclude statements appear. Once
a
> given file matches an include or exclude statement, then the file is
> included or excluded as appropriate. Subsequent include or exclude
> statements are not considered. The excerpts you posted don't show the
> non-temp include and exclude statements, so we can't tell if there might
> be
> some other statement overriding your excludes. For example, if you this
in
> dsm.opt:
>
> ...
> EXCLUDE *:\...\Temp\...\*
> INCLUDE *:\Documents and Settings\...\*
> ...
>
> Then with bottom-up processing, a temp file in the "Documents and
> Settings"
> directory will match the INCLUDE statement, at which time the file will
be
> backed up.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Andy Raibeck
> IBM Software Group
> Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
> Level 3 Team Lead
> Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/[email protected]
> Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com
>
> IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
> http://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/Overview/Software/Tivoli/
> Tivoli_Storage_Manager
>
>
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT vm.marist DOT edu> wrote on 2012-04-17
> 14:43:11:
>
> > From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU <zforray AT VCU DOT EDU>
> > To: ADSM-L AT vm.marist DOT edu,
> > Date: 2012-04-17 14:46
> > Subject: Re: Why are my "temp" files being backed up?
> > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT vm.marist DOT edu>
> >
> > I should have mentioned that nothing has changed on this server for a
> long
> > time, including the cloptset.  My thought is if it is "expiring" it,
> then
> > it must have backed it up.
> >
> > I was simply researching the memory problems (see bottom of my initial
> > post) when I saw these in the dsmsched.log.
> >
> > I am wondering if the journaling process overrides/ignores the
exclusion
> > process.
> >
> >
> > Zoltan Forray
> > TSM Software & Hardware Administrator
> > Virginia Commonwealth University
> > UCC/Office of Technology Services
> > zforray AT vcu DOT edu - 804-828-4807
> > Don't be a phishing victim - VCU and other reputable organizations
will
> > never use email to request that you reply with your password, social
> > security number or confidential personal information. For more details
> > visit http://infosecurity.vcu.edu/phishing.html
> >
> >
> >
> > From:   "Clark, Margaret" <MClark AT SDDPC DOT ORG>
> > To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Date:   04/17/2012 02:32 PM
> > Subject:        Re: [ADSM-L] Why are my "temp" files being backed up?
> > Sent by:        "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
> >
> >
> >
> > What you show here is not a log of files being backed up, but being
> > expired.  If you had just modified the options file to add the
> exclusion,
> > you'd see a log like this.
> > If that's the case, then check the log again tomorrow.
> > - Margaret
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
Of
> > Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:00 AM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: [ADSM-L] Why are my "temp" files being backed up?
> >
> > Windows 2003 server - 6.3 client.  This machine is very memory
> > constrained.  43M files.  Using journaling and MEMORYEFFICIENT
> > DISKCACHEMETHOD.
> >
> > When I use the CLI and do a "q inclexcl", I see:
> >
> > <snippage>
> > Exclude All       *\temp\*                       Server
> > <more snippage>
> > Exclude All       *\...\Temp\...\*               Server
> >
> > So I know the cloptset is working.
> >
> > Nothing in the dsm.opt:
> >
> > NODENAME ACIPENSER.VCU.EDU
> > TCPSERVERADDRESS TSMLINUX8.UCC.VCU.EDU
> > PASSWORDACCESS  GENERATE
> > SCHEDLOGR 30 D
> > ERRORLOGR 30 D
> > *MEMORYEFFICIENT YES
> > MEMORYEFFICIENT DISKCACHEMETHOD
> > diskcachelocation g:\tsm_cache
> > *SNAPSHOTPROVIDER VSS
> > VERBOSE
> >
> > Yet I see entries like:
> >
> > 04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1  Expiring-->                    0
> > \\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
> > Settings\Temp\list26194-1656.mem [Sent]
> > 04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1  Expiring-->                    0
> > \\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
> > Settings\Temp\list26195-1656.mem [Sent]
> > 04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1  Expiring-->                    0
> > \\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
> > Settings\Temp\list26196-4900.mem [Sent]
> > 04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1  Expiring-->                    0
> > \\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
> > Settings\Temp\list26197-1656.mem [Sent]
> > 04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1  Expiring-->                    0
> > \\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
> > Settings\Temp\list26198-4900.mem [Sent]
> > 04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1  Expiring-->                    0
> > \\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
> > Settings\Temp\list26199-4900.mem [Sent]
> > 04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1  Expiring-->                    0
> > \\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
> > Settings\Temp\list26200-1656.mem [Sent]
> > 04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1  Expiring-->                    0
> > \\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
> > Settings\Temp\list26201-4900.mem [Sent]
> > 04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1  Expiring-->                    0
> > \\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
> > Settings\Temp\list26202-1656.mem [Sent]
> > 04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1  Expiring-->                    0
> > \\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
> > Settings\Temp\list26203-1656.mem [Sent]
> > 04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1  Expiring-->                    0
> > \\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
> > Settings\Temp\list26204-1656.mem [Sent]
> >
> > in the dsmsched.log file?
> >
> > What am I missing?
> >
> > I am also dealing with some kind of "memory" issue eventhough I am
using
> > memoryefficient:
> >
> >
> > 04/15/2012 18:24:54 ANS1030E The operating system refused a TSM
request
> > for memory allocation.
> > 04/15/2012 18:24:54 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'RESEARCH-COMPUTING'
> failed.
> > Return code = 12.
> > 04/16/2012 17:08:01 ANS1814E Unable to start the scheduled event
> > 'ACIPENSER.SQL.DAILY'
> > 04/16/2012 17:08:01 ANS1815E Either the window has elapsed or the
> schedule
> > has been deleted
> > 04/16/2012 18:29:55 ANS1999E Incremental processing of
'\\acipenser\i$'
> > stopped.
> >
> > 04/16/2012 18:29:56 ANS1030E The operating system refused a TSM
request
> > for memory allocation.
> > 04/16/2012 18:29:56 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'RESEARCH-COMPUTING'
> failed.
> > Return code = 12.
> >
> > Any thoughts on this?
> >
>