Re: [ADSM-L] RFE 17805

2012-04-03 11:05:27
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] RFE 17805
From: Shawn Drew <shawn.drew AT AMERICAS.BNPPARIBAS DOT COM>
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 10:57:26 -0400
I do wish TSM would be a fully clustered solution.  With virtual IPs, 
grid/redundant storage, redundant server nodes, virtually unlimited scale 
and everything you need to seamlessly handle any outage.  Many things the 
storage side already has.  Maybe it's not cost effective to develop these 
solutions for "secondary storage"

In reality, I've found this business has always been about wrangling a 
product into submission with scripts, ugly hacks and automation in order 
to get the job done. 

Shawn Drew

markus.engelhard AT BUNDESBANK DOT DE

04/03/2012 01:50 AM
Please respond to


Re: [ADSM-L] RFE 17805

Dear Remco et al.,

I agree that in a "poor man´s cluster" with only part of the 
failing over, some manual processes have to be initiated:
- I like the policy set solution, as the scripts will also enable just an
outage of one of the libraries
- if you run an active-active and copy-copy setup, you can double the
number of drives for backup (if you copy asynchronously) and set the "DR
pool" as next pool
- I´m not so fond of changing the device classes
- I have not yet meddled with node replication, but I certainly will
(dreaming of a four site low bandwidth disk only environment...)

I had to run these sort of settings in our branch offices with TSM on
windows and LTO1/2 in IBM 3583 back in the TSM 5.3 days, you were really
kept in practice for weekly DRs in these environments!
Finally I was able to consolidate to an enterprise scale. In the end it
boiled down to virtualizing the libraries with near-transparent failover,
just one IO-error and it´s done and self-repairing once both sides are up
and running again. One more point ist having the databases (ERP; ORACLE;
DOMINO; ...) have enough space to survive at least 24 hours without 
their transaction logs. You have to have at least one of these features
(best both), else the design is to be put to question. Ask the managers if
they want to be enterprise or if they just want to pretend to be...

In the end it would of course be nice to have such a feature, but who will
decide desaster is here? Normally it would be more than a HACMP or 
failover to declare desaster, time enough to have someone push the button
to run the scripts.

Kind regards,
Markus Engelhard
Dipl. Min.
Deutsche Bundesbank
Produktmanagement Infrastrukturen

Wilhelm-Epstein-Straße 14
60431 Frankfurt am Main

Tel.: 069 9566-6104
Fax: 069 9566-4290
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