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Re: [ADSM-L] Grandfather-Father-Son strategy -- howto?

2010-06-21 18:43:16
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Grandfather-Father-Son strategy -- howto?
From: Xav Paice <xpaice AT OSS.CO DOT NZ>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:42:16 +1200
I echo the other replies to this one - and make the following points:
- part of the life of a TSM administrator is to educate users, with the aid of 
simple and realistic examples rather than TSM jargon.  People sometimes find it 
a hard concept to get, but once they do, they generally come around with one of 
those great 'eureka' moments.
- Yes, using different node definitions would achieve that result, at a cost of 
efficiency. You end up keeping duplicate data. Do make sure that they 
understand (and are willing to meet the cost) of what they are asking for.
- You could also consider making backupsets of node data and putting them 
somewhere, or even exports... but again, it's not efficient.
- Also you have not mentioned their reasons for wanting this strategy - if it's 
for SOX/JSOX/etc compliance, I'd be wary of promising TSM as a compliance 
solution because that's not what it's designed to do.  There are add on 
products for that purpose that do a much better job.

I would make the assumption that you are in the same position I often find 
myself (and I'm sure others on the list have the same as well) - someone has 
experience with a different product, and wants to ensure that they can recover 
old data from ages ago, just in case they need it.  Many people keep a year or 
more of monthly archives - you can do that too if you want, but it won't be 
efficient, and just like a G/F/S tape set, there is a good chance that the 
mission critical file that was deleted 6 months ago isn't on the monthly 
archive anyway.  I try to understand what sort of data they might need to have 
history of - if it's documents that might have been deleted, increase the 
retonly.  If it's month-end financial data, use archives.  If it's operating 
system binaries, why do they need to keep it so long - probably a week is fine.

Sorry for the long reply...  hope that it helps.



----- "Bjørn Nachtwey" <b.nachtwey AT TU-BS DOT DE> wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> some of our users want to have a grandfather-father-son strategy
> using
> the tsm backup -- as far as i figured out, such a strategy is not
> part
> of the tsm approach.
> 
> futher more i found an old discussion (Dec 2004) in the archive of
> this
> list, where Charles Hart supposed to do each of the backups using a
> different nodename that directs to different domains/management
> classes
> with adapted attributes.
> 
> Is this still the way of realization or can I do something different?
> Especially if I want this straregy just for parts of the data?
> 
> thanks,
> Bjørn
> 
> 
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