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Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation

2009-10-12 16:28:28
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
From: Bob Levad <blevad AT WINNEBAGOIND DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:24:52 -0500
When we migrated to a new server and LTO4 from LTO1, we installed all of the
new stuff and tested the hardware with the TSM version we were running.
When that was working well, we drained all of the disk pools, backed up the
database from the existing server, shut it down, attached the old tape
drives to the new server, restored the database, brought it up, deleted all
of the old disk pools, defined new disk pools for the new hardware, defined
the new tape drives, set up new devclasses and storage pools, changed the
domains to point to the new devices and migration hierarchy, tested backups
and restores, and set up move data jobs to move data from the LTO1's back to
disk pools where it would then migrate to the new LTO4s.  Once the LTO1's
were empty, we detached the library and recycled the old tapes.  The upgrade
to a newer TSM could occur on the old server or the new, but best probably
not at the same time as the hardware cutover.

Starting from scratch was not an option for us as we have files with
multi-year retentions.

Bob.

PS - If you have references to tapes that no longer exist, there are methods
(google is your friend) to delete references to them.  The method of
deletion may depend on how the data was stored
(primary/copypool/backupset/db backup/other).  Once the references are gone,
you should delete the storage pools and device classes that are obsolete.

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Kurt Buff
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:09 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation

So, what happens to all the tapes I have offsite at Iron Mountain, and the
archives I have stored in my basement vault, etc.

I'll be perusing the archives as you suggest, but this isn't exactly
crystalline to me just yet.

A complicating factor that I hadn't realized until I did a bit of digging
just now is that the current database holds references to a
*really* old set of 8mm (AIT2) tapes from a Spectralogic Treefrog that we
migrated from some years ago.

Would the procedure you're suggesting clean that up?

Kurt

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:10, Kelly Lipp <lipp AT storserver DOT com> wrote:
> Start from scratch.  Install TSM at the level you would like, move and
configure the library. Point the clients at the new server and go.  That
first backup will necessarily be a full.  Will take longer than usual, but
easy.
>
> This method allows you go "clean up" your database.
>
> Keep the old server around until the data expires.
>
> Clearly, there are more details, especially since you are going to re-use
the library on the new STORServer (oops, I mean TSM Server).  The overall
concept is sound. For sites of your size I like this method as it is simple
and gets me a brand new, pristine database.  This will become important next
year when you migrate to TSM 6.2.  Besides, a clean start is always a good
thing.
>
> This topic has been covered earlier and in much more detail.  You might
peruse the archives to see what you can find.  My name will show up along
with others like Wanda who have been through this many times.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kelly Lipp
> Chief Technical Officer
> www.storserver.com
> 719-266-8777 x7105
> STORServer solves your data backup challenges.
> Once and for all.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
> Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:02 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>
> I'd prefer to be able to migrate server data as much as possible, 
> including the diskpool, but if it it would be an incredibly difficult 
> maneuver (or take inordinate amounts of time, say on the order of more 
> than a 4-day weekend) and/or the downside of losing the diskpool is 
> relatively minor, I could potentially live without it.
>
> I would also contemplate keeping the current TSM server version on the 
> new machine and upgrading immediately after implementation if that 
> would be of benefit.
>
> We back up fewer than 10 servers, but one is our Exchange 2003 server 
> at roughly 200gb and is a full backup every night, and the other is 
> our file server at over 2tb, though on a nightly  basis it normally 
> does around 25-50gb.
>
> Does that answer your question?
>
> Kurt
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:18, David McClelland <tsm AT networkc.co DOT uk>
wrote:
>> Are you looking purely at a lift and shift hardware change here, or at a
clean installation of TSM Server (at 5.5.3 for example) and migrating
clients into the new instance?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> /David Mc
>> London, UK
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
>> Of Kurt Buff
>> Sent: 12 October 2009 18:54
>> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>> Subject: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>>
>> All,
>>
>> We have a TSM server that's running out of steam, and nearing the end 
>> of its expected reliable life. We have Version 5, Release 3, Level 
>> 4.6 installed, with various levels of clients installed on our servers.
>> The server has 1gb RAM, roughly 2tb of disk storage, but it's 
>> old/slow PATA, and the OS is Win2k Pro. Definitely not ideal.
>>
>> The tape robot is a Spectralogic T50, with two LTO3 drives and 25 
>> slots, out of which we expect to get much more life.
>>
>> We expect to replace the server with a new Dell server with 3tb of 
>> SATA disk, 3gb RAM, Win2k3 (32bit), and use the current tape robot.
>>
>> I'd like to get to the newest in the 5.x series on the new server, 
>> since the talk on this list about moving to 6.x indicates to me that 
>> we'd be better off staying at 5.x for now.
>>
>> I've been casting about, and can't seem to find documentation on how 
>> to migrate the setup to the new machine.
>>
>> Does anyone have a pointer to good documentation on doing this?
>>
>> Frankly, we've been given a quote by a VAR, and though the number of 
>> hours they are quoting seem reasonable, the price they're asking to 
>> work with us on this is beyond our budget.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Kurt
>>
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