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Re: [ADSM-L] Backing up running VM's

2009-06-17 11:46:17
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Backing up running VM's
From: Buddy Howeth <BHoweth AT PCOASTP DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:25:35 -0700
We had IBM come to our company to help with the setup.

We have 3 ESX 3.5 servers running linux that are our hosts for the VMs. We
have one physical windows box which is the VCB (Virtual Consolidate
Backup).  This machine has a TSM Windows client installed.  In the
pre/post schedule section of the client we have commands that cause VMware
to do the snapshots to the Drive D of the VCB.  When the snapshots are
complete, TSM backs the VCB machine up including any snapshot on drive D.

I believe I may still have the white paper we received from IBM on the
subject.

This does not violate any license issue with IBM.

Buddy Howeth
Computer Operations Specialist
Information Systems
Pacific Coast Producers
Corporate Offices
631 N. Cluff Ave
Lodi, CA  95240-0756
(209) 367-8800 - Main#
(209) 367-6288 - Computer Room
(209) 366-6240 - Alpha Pager





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Buddy,

Could you please elaborate, or provide some form of reference/proof for
your assertion ?
This would be absolutely great news, but as far as I know, IBM is not a
non-profit organization ;-)

Cheers.

Arnaud


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Subject: Re: Backing up running VM's

You don't need a license for each VM if you use a proxy.


Buddy Howeth
Computer Operations Specialist
Information Systems
Pacific Coast Producers
Corporate Offices
631 N. Cluff Ave
Lodi, CA  95240-0756
(209) 367-8800 - Main#
(209) 367-6288 - Computer Room
(209) 366-6240 - Alpha Pager





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Eric,

TSM does backup running VMs; for TSM versions prior to 5.5, you had to
backup each individual VM just like you would backup physical servers
(this meant getting a TSM license for each and every VM instance). TSM
V5.5 goes a step further and makes use of the VM Consolidated backup
(VCB) to accommodate the backup of VMs (it works well!!!); with the VCB,
depending on your setup, the need for multiple licenses is greatly reduced
as you make use of a proxy server to backup the VM.

Please refer to the IBM Tivoli Storage Manager V5.4 & 5.5 Technical Guide
- Chapter 24 for a detailed explanation of the VCB process &
configuration.

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG247447/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwh
elp.htm

Bertaut.

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Loon, EJ van - SPLXM
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:04 AM
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Subject: [ADSM-L] Backing up running VM's

Hi TSM-ers!
Our windows department is looking at different backup products for backing
up their server.
They have two major problems with TSM. One I cannot solve: the TSM client
license is processor based, so quite expensive for the majority of small
servers. I think we all agree that the TSM client license should be
capacity based, but IBM aint listening here...
The other problem is that they state TSM cannot backup running VM's.
They now use a product called DPM to make snapshot copies of running VM's.
I'm not really familiar with Window server management, especially when it
comes to virtualization, but I know one thing: TSM is one of the leading,
cutting edge backup products, so I doubt TSM is not supporting this
feature.
Does anybody know whether it is possible to make snapshot backups with TSM
of running VM's?
Thank you very much in advance for any reply!!!
Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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