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Re: [ADSM-L] volumes in a collocation group?stg

2009-03-19 04:40:05
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] volumes in a collocation group?stg
From: Alex Paschal <apaschal AT MSIINET DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:31:19 -0500
Hi, Larry.

Depending on your various RTOs, it might make sense to restore stgpool
newstgpool=vtlpool where vtlpool is, well, on a VTL.  Once the data is
on the VTL, you can perform massively parallel restores.  This might be
a bit more expensive, and it eats up some initial prep time, but it
might be worth comparing against the cost of a protracted DR.  An inline
deduping VTL like Diligent/TS7650G may be less expensive because,
without dedup, I expect it would be about as expensive as restoring to a
very large diskpool.

I know it's not a nifty TSM-based solution, but in this case, I think
going outside the provided toolset can be a good choice.  I honestly
can't think of a faster, easier way to unblock your tape access in an
uncollocated copypool.

Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Larry Clark
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:47 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] volumes in a collocation group?stg

Hi Alex,
Yes, this is related to improving restore times in a DR senario...so
these
are offsitevols from a copypool.

Larry Clark
(518) 712-5138 Home Office


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Paschal" <apaschal AT MSIINET DOT COM>
To: <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] volumes in a collocation group?stg


Hi, All.

The critical piece that Larry mentioned is that he's interested in a
copypool.  If your primary pool is collocated by anything, but your
copypool is not collocated at all, then your copypool data will be mixed
up with no regard for collocation groups.

Nick, if you really want to mix data on tapes (I have no idea why you
would want to, but the beautiful thing about TSM is you can do nearly
anything you want), the first way I can think of is to temporarily
reduce MAXSCRATCH (or temporarily disable collocation), set to
Unavailable the volumes you do _not_ wish to write to, then issue move
[node]data.

Alex


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Alex Paschal
Storage Solutions Engineer
MSI Systems Integrators
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-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Nick Laflamme
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:42 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] volumes in a collocation group?

On Mar 14, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Larry Clark wrote:

> What you say is curious..............only nodes that are in a
> collocation
> group should have data on the volumes in that collocation group. At
> least
> that is my understanding.
>
> Your saying more than one collocation group can store data on the same
> volume?
>
> I know for collocation by node that would not be true............

Paul already mentioned the scenario in which TSM has to put a a
collocation group member's data on a tape that has data from another
group on it, due to resource constraints. You can get similar results
if a node's collocation group membership changes from one group to
another. In that case, data stays where it is, meaning the tapes now
contain data from two groups on them, even though TSM behaved exactly
as predicted.

I keep wondering if there's a way to mix groups' data on a volume
using MOVE DATA or MOVE NODEDATA, but since neither lets you specify a
target more exactly than a storage group, I haven't seen how yet.

> Larry Clark

Nick


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