Hey, you asked... :) Ha! I'm about ready to use all of this here
disposable income that I don't have to pay because of VCB and buy from Kelly.
I'm not really happy with our setup...
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Curtis Preston
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 2:36 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey
Yeah... This post has really cleared things up for me. Not. ;)
Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection
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Infrastructure :: Optimized
-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Thorneycroft, Doug
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:10 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey
Wouldn't it be nice if we could just issue q lic and pay X$ for each Managed
System,
or to issue a q auditocc, sum up the Total Storage Used column and multiply
by X$ per
MB or GB or TB.
There must be some way for IBM to set a well defined, and easy to understand
licensing plan, based on easy to find statistics.
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf Of
Howard Coles
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:41 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey
Steve's response does make more sense, due to the fact that you are
backing up the VMware server, not just the VCB, and not licensing the
VMware host would cut seriously into IBM's profits. However, I'd like
to think Kelly's is true and I've heard that from more than one person.
See Ya'
Howard
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
> Of Schaub, Steve
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:35 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey
>
> That depends on who you talk to - some Tivoli reps will say that the
> VMWare host cores need licenses as well.
> -steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
> Of
> Kelly Lipp
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:23 AM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey
>
> The license for the TSM client in this case is based upon the VCB
proxy
> server running the TSM client.
>
> Kelly Lipp
> ________________________________________
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
> Schaub, Steve [steve_schaub AT BCBST DOT COM]
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:08 AM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey
>
> FYI - the waters get even murkier when you start down the VCB path.
>
> Try posing this scenario to your Tivoli rep: all VMWare guest backups
> have been offloaded to VCB proxy servers, and the TSM client has been
> uninstalled from the guests. No TSM software exists on the VM hosts
at
> all.
>
> Now ask them which physical cores need to be counted for Tivoli
> licensing - the answer may surprise you.
>
> Steve Schaub
> Systems Engineer, Windows
> Blue Cross Blue Shield of Tennessee
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
> Of
> cpreston
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:06 AM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey
>
> Wanda Prather wrote:
> > Licensing is by physical cores. Throw up as many VM clients as you
> want; you still just pay for the cpus (cores) on the physical box.
> >
>
>
> Just to be clear -- that includes TDP licenses? There was a question
> today on the list ( http://tinyurl.com/47zjbe ) where at least one of
> the answers seemed the opposite of what you're saying, and another
said
> "nobody knows."
>
> I speak about VMware backups, and so I get asked this a lot. I just
> want to make sure my answer is dead on.
>
> TIA
>
>
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