Hi,
And why would I like to backup desktop PST files instead of the Exchange
server?
Can someone tell me the benefits since I probably is missing something...
//Henrik
Living in a cetralized enviroment where everything that needs backup are
servers, ex. Private/Common areas, Exchange etc.
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Thomas Rupp
Sent: den 18 januari 2008 08:23
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] AW: [ADSM-L] Windows Client question...
After some time of inactivity Outlook releases the lock to a PST.
If you get too many locked PST files one solution could be to lower this value
(see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/222328)
We use subfilebackup to reduce the amount of backed up data.
Every time a user opens outlook the PST file is changed (it only gets a new
timestamp).
Subfile backup here reduced the amount of backed up data to about 10%
HTH
Thomas Rupp
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Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] Im Auftrag
von Elana Samuels
Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Jänner 2008 02:28
An: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Betreff: Re: [ADSM-L] Windows Client question...
So how would you recommend to backup open PST files? Unfortunately in the SMB
space, most desktops are running Outlook and the users typically leave their
mail open at night.
Elana Samuels
Tier 1 Data Solutions Inc.
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Wanda Prather
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:26 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Windows Client question...
Agreed.
I tell my customers NOT to install OFS unless they have a reason, and only on
systems where they know what the reason is.
It triggers a LOT of unncessary and pretty unintelligible VSS errors, and is
usually doing nothing worthwhile.
Look at your TSM daily reporter output on clients without OFS installed, check
the "missed file details". You'll find that 90% of the files that are missed
are in the category of "usual suspects". You may want to sit down with a
Windows admin and get them to help you identify the missed files.
Many will be ntuser.dat or ntuser.log files, or other parts of the user
profile. You rarely need backups of these unless you are backing up desktops,
and then the profiles are included in teh backup of System State.
Most of the rest will be files that are clearly identifiable as DB parts
belonging to apps like SQL or Oracle. OFS support does not necessarily give
you good backups of a data base, because there is no interface with the DB
journal/logs. So even if people THINK they are getting backups this way, you
probably shouldn't count on using them - the appropriate solution for DB's is
using a TDP client.
Once you identify the missed files, you'll usually find there is nothing on the
client that needs the OFS support - exception would be a locally developed
application. But I still wouldn't count on OFS being the answer, until
somebody explains to me how the app works and what kind of backups will give
you appropriate restore and DR capability. (ANd then TEST to make sure the
restored version is viable.)
On 1/16/08, Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU <zforray AT vcu DOT edu> wrote:
>
> FWIW, I don't think it has ever been installed on any of our > 200
> Windows systems we backup.
>
> FYI, installing either of these WILL REQUIRE a reboot since it
> installs a service/low-level driver.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Zoltan Forray
> Virginia Commonwealth University
> Office of Technology Services
> University Computing Center
> e-mail: zforray AT vcu DOT edu
> voice: 804-828-4807
>
>
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> Ben Bullock <BBullock AT BCIDAHO DOT COM>
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> 01/16/2008 12:15 PM
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> [ADSM-L] Windows Client question...
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>
> Howdy,
> I recently switched jobs and now am managing TSM in a mostly
> Windows environment (instead of the Unix world where I am
> comfortable). A new challenge... anyways....
>
> On the Windows TSM client, there is the option to install the "Open
> file support" and the "Image Backup" support. Does everyone install these?
> Does it depend on what kind of DR you might have to do on the windows
> host? Forgive my Windows ignorance,
>
> I've read the manuals and it looks like the upside is the ability to
> backup open files, but the downside I am seeing is that there seems to
> be a lot of errors with the way it interfaces with the Windows native
> VSS service. It also looks like if these are installed and you want to
> upgrade the TSM client, it requires a reboot of the Windows client to
> get it done. Nobody wants to reboot a production server to upgrade its
> backup software.
>
> So what is everyone's opinion?:
> - "The Open file support is worth the hassle and should be installed
> on all TSM clients"
> - "The Open file support should be installed on certain systems" (if
> so, what is your criteria).
> - "The open file support is to much pain and should not be installed."
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
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