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Re: [ADSM-L] Trying to retrieve data from tape

2007-10-19 07:01:05
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Trying to retrieve data from tape
From: Larry Clark <lclark01 AT NYCAP.RR DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:00:22 -0500
No database, no data.............

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ibán Bernaldo de Quirós Márquez" <Iban.Bernaldodequiros AT SUN DOT COM>
To: <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:38 AM
Subject: [ADSM-L] Trying to retrieve data from tape


Hi all,

I think I know the answer for this question(--It is not possible--) but
from other software it could be do executing a large procedure to
retrieve data without having the backup server database.

Suppose that I have lost my TSM database... All files at least are in
tapes...

Do we have a way to retrieve data on tape without having TSM database,
and not been a backupset... ¿?

Thanks !!

Regards,
Ibán.

Angus Macdonald wrote:
Thanks for that. Makes it a lot clearer.

So, if I create a filelist of files I want to archive and archive them with the -deletefiles option, they will be gone from the source, correct? If I then run an expire with the same filelist, the files will be expired from the Tivoli primary storage pools but not the archive, thereby freeing up library space (once the archive tapes are safely removed), also correct? I hope so - the job might actually be fairly simple that way!

Thanks again
Angus

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf Of
Larry Clark
Sent: 19 October 2007 10:56
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Archiving basic queries


Archiving and backups are two separate considerations unless you do an
archive with the deletefiles option.

If you archive a file it remains on the client unless you add the
deletefiles option. In that case, the backup versions are not affected.

If you archive with the deletefiles option, then the file is removed from
the client and the rules you have set for deleted files applies to your
backup version.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Angus Macdonald" <Angus.Macdonald AT NWW-TR.WALES.NHS DOT UK>
To: <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:34 AM
Subject: [ADSM-L] Archiving basic queries


I have a lot of old data I want to archive based on the file accessed date.
I know Tivoli cannot do this for me so I am putting together an app to
locate and archive each file using batch mode. My queries are more
fundamental - I'm having trouble finding a simple explanation of the archive
process!

If I archive a file, is the file removed from the source afterwards? Once
archived, are files removed from other primary and secondary storage pools
they might be living in? I'm archiving to free up Tivoli library space so
I'd like to expire archived files immediately; does the archive process do
this or will I have to manually expire each file as it is archived? I don't want to wait for the files to expire automatically as we have a fairly long
retention period set by default.

And last, is there a redbook anywhere that CLEARLY explains the archive
process. I have lots that address archiving (the mechanics, how to perform
it etc) but none that explain what exactly happens.

Thanks
Angus

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