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Re: Vmware guest "hot" backups

2005-05-25 16:44:53
Subject: Re: Vmware guest "hot" backups
From: Steve Schaub <Steve_Schaub AT BCBST DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:44:22 -0400
1. server=5.2.4.3 client=5.2.0.0 (trying to get 5.3, but we are missing some
prereq rpm's)

2. 2.5

3. we have only tried 2 guests so far, an app server and a domain
controller.  Most of our testing has been on the dc.  All the backups worked
until we turned "Validate Protocol" (crc) on, per Tivoli support - now every
backup fails.  On the restore side, it's more like 50/50 - there are 2
drives on this guest, and we have had to restore one drive from one day, and
the other from a different day, in order to make things work.

4. yes, they are also sending us an updated version of their script, and
helping us get the prereq rpm's.

5. we have tried using cp, but we have not tried restoring from it.  We have
also started experimenting with vmware's export, in case we are running into
an issue with backing up a 15gb file.

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Stapleton, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 3:14 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Vmware guest "hot" backups

Questions:

1. The version of the TSM server and client you're working with.
2. Are you at version 2.5 of ESX, or 2.5.1?
3. When you say "several backups", can you give us an idea of how many
backups you run, and how many restore properly and improperly?
4. Have you talked to VMWare support about this issue?
5. Have you attempted backups and restores using cp or dd, instead of TSM?

--
Mark Stapleton (stapleton AT berbee DOT com)
IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional
  Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005 IBM Certified Advanced Technical
Expert (CATE) AIX Office 262.521.5627



>-----Original Message-----
>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
>Of Steve Schaub
>Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:55 PM
>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>Subject: Re: Vmware guest "hot" backups
>
>We have had several backups fail, but worse, we have had some restores
>bomb out (like 300mb away from the end of a 15gb restore), and even
>worse yet, we have had some restores work, but the .vmdk came back
>corrupted and vmware couldn't even mount it.  We are planning on using
>this method to do DR recovery of our AD environment, so a reliable
>backup/restore is *fairly* important.
>
>We have seen this in the dsmerror.log on the vmhost after a failed
>restore:
>06/24/04 14:21:44 The 299579424th code was found to be out of sequence.
>The code (424) was greater than (262), the next available slot in the
>string table.
>06/24/04 14:21:44 The 299579425th code was found to be out of sequence.
>The code (288) was greater than (263), the next available slot in the
>string table.
>06/24/04 14:21:44 The 299579446th code was found to be out of sequence.
>The code (384) was greater than (267), the next available slot in the
>string table.
>
>We have a call in to Tivoli, but nothing in the way of a concrete fix
>yet...
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
>Of Stapleton, Mark
>Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 11:32 AM
>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Vmware guest "hot" backups
>
>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
>Of Steve Schaub
>>My team & I would be interested in speaking with anyone who has been
>>successful in using TSM to backup/restore what the database
>folks would
>>call a "hot" backup of VMWare guest machines (i.e. backing up
>the .vmdk
>>files while the guest is in redo mode).
>>
>>We have run several test backup/restores, some less successful than
>>others.
>>We are using ESX 2.5 currently.
>>
>>If you have gotten this to work consistantly and would be willing to
>>share your experience, please email me directly:
>steve_schaub AT bcbst DOT com
>><mailto:steve_schaub AT bcbst DOT com>
>
>Yep, as long as we're talking VMWare ESX. The GSX documentation
>explicitly says that the only supported backups of VM occur only when
>the VM is shut down prior to backup.
>
>The ESX software allows for a "freeze" of a VM (with the use of a REDO
>log) as you describe; while the VM is frozen, the .vmdk file can be
>backed up reliably. Once the backup is complete, the log is committed,
>and you're done.
>
>What problems are you having?
>
>--
>Mark Stapleton (stapleton AT berbee DOT com)
>IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional
>  Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005 IBM Certified Advanced
>Technical Expert (CATE) AIX Office 262.521.5627
>
>
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