Don't get me wrong, the TSM 5.3 server version seems to work
great in our test environment, it's just the management interface that
is causing folks heart-ache. 

        If you are used to managing the TSM server through the
command-line interface, and you need some function of the 5.3 server
(like us with the directory level NDMP backups with TOCs), 5.3 works
fine.

Ben


-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Terry McColgan
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:21 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: NetApp NAS NDMP Data

Hello; I have some experience with NDMP on a NetApp to Tivoli system. To
the best of my knowledge, NDMP does not support archiving. It supports
FULL and DIFFERENTIAL backups only. Using the TOC I am able to do file
level restores without a problem. Given the limitations on NDMP (no DRM
...), we scripted a system that  has ONSITE and OFFSITE pools where the
ONSITE pools stay in the library and the OFFSITE pools are ejected from
the library (IBM 3583) automatically to be stored offsite. Then, by
running some SELECT statements in MS excel we are able to determine when
to bring the empties back. Given the horror stories I've been reading
about YSM 5.3 I think we'll just stick to 5.2.x.x, thanks. - t

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Ben Bullock [mailto:bbullock AT MICRON DOT COM]
Sent:   Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:16 PM
To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject:        Re: NetApp NAS NDMP Data

        Hmm, but can that be done through the NDMP methodology of
backup? I don't think so. You only really have a "backup" method, not an
"archive" with NDMP. I think....

        We are just dipping our toes in NDMP, so I'm not an expert, but
it looks like for that data what we want to keep longer than just DR
purposes, we will need to archive it though an NFS mount, especially
where there are a few files in a whole qtree that you want kept forever
but the rest only for 30 days.

        NDMP just lacks that granularity, especially at the file level.
There is a 'virtualfsmapping' method in TSM 5.3 that can get you to the
directory level, so that may work if directory level is granular enough
for you.

Ben


-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Stapleton, Mark
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 11:04 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: NetApp NAS NDMP Data

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Iain Barnetson
>I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to what I could do to 
>get a series of Monthly full backups of the NAS nodes?

Easy. Use archives, not backups, for your monthlies. Set your archive
expiration to whatever timeframe is appropriate for your business needs.

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Mark Stapleton (stapleton AT berbee DOT com)
Office 262.521.5627