Too true... I am finding that we spend a lot less time managing our TSM as we 
have to spend managing the Netbackup environment.  ;-)

Thanks again. This is great info, now if I can find the time to compile....

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf Of
Kauffman, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:28 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: How Many Backup Administrators to Data Backed Up?


Yeah, but then I'll come along and screw up the numbers <grin>.

One TSM server, 10 LTO2 drives in a 3584 library; 25 servers (18 AIX, 7
Windows). We don't do desktop systems.

We do about 2.6 TB of backup and archiving nightly and copy about 1.8 TB
to move off-site daily.

I'm the primary TSM admin -- I spend less then 2 hours per day on TSM on
a bad day, maybe 40 minutes on a good day. I have two aides that spend
an average of 20 minuts total per day on TSM. There are a few
exceptions, but for the most part we're tuned to be fully automated.

I am about to totally rework my database backup process for the backup
that goes offsite, and I expect to invest roughly 20 hours over the next
two weeks doing the coding, testing, and documentation. But on a
day-to-day process, we treat TSM with benign negelct here.

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Hart, Charles
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:09 AM
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Subject: Re: How Many Backup Administrators to Data Backed Up?

Thank you all for your input.  Seems like the Backup World is big
enough, you would think Gartner would publish a Basic Ratio as they do
for SAN admins to disk. (Like many places our mngt thinks Gartner is
King) but this exercise we go through annually is to get upper mngt's
but in).

Have a great day!!!!!

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf Of
David Nicholson
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 6:09 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: How Many Backup Administrators to Data Backed Up?


What a great time for this post/question!!!  Thanks for asking it!!


(2) TSM servers, 2 tape Libraries (3494 w/ 15 3590's drives / 2500 cells
and a 3584 w/ 6 LTO II drives / 250 cells)
800 nodes (AIX, Windows, Linux) Every flavor of DB or app you can
imagine.
We backup 2-3TB a day.
Total stored in TSM is 90TB, combined database used is 80GB.

We invest around 4-8 hours a day on TSM "stuff".  TSM like everything
else
is under staffed...we could be investing about 3 times the amount of
people resources on TSM that we currently do.


Dave