Re: INCL/EXCL again - backup just some directories

> Thanks for the reply, Andrew!

You're welcome!

> Since you asked, here is my problem background:

> To keep down the amount we backup during the night, we only want to
backup
> those three directories on our office servers during the business week.

Makes sense.

> On weekends, we want to 'catch up' and backup everything.

Also makes sense.

> Our remote offices are mostly connected with T1's, a few places have
several
> machines we backup and those have T3's.

> The only reason for possibly excluding the objects on the weekend
backups is
> to keep down redundancy of data being backed up.

Well, incremental backup is not redundant. If the files have not changed
since the last backup, then they won't be backed up again. I do not see
how this would necessarily impact network activity.

> Part of this is because our TSM server is a little to small (not enough
> disk, and they are not high performance disk either, but all that is
another
> story).

> Does this make sense?  Or am I blowing smoke and not seeing the big
picture?
> ... Thanks again ... JC

Sure. This is why I ask, so we can be sure we are seeing the big picture;
that is, we need to confirm we are asking the right questions. :-)   I'm
also advocating what I think is the simplest approach, though if you end
up having to use two nodes, that too could be done.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.

"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU> wrote on 10/28/2004
10:32:25:

> Thanks for the reply, Andrew!
>
> Since you asked, here is my problem background:
>
> To keep down the amount we backup during the night, we only want to
backup
> those three directories on our office servers during the business week.
>
> On weekends, we want to 'catch up' and backup everything.
>
> Our remote offices are mostly connected with T1's, a few places have
several
> machines we backup and those have T3's.
>
> The only reason for possibly excluding the objects on the weekend
backups is
> to keep down redundancy of data being backed up.
>
> Part of this is because our TSM server is a little to small (not enough
> disk, and they are not high performance disk either, but all that is
another
> story).
>
> Does this make sense?  Or am I blowing smoke and not seeing the big
picture?
> ... Thanks again ... JC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:storman AT US.IBM DOT COM]
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:17 AM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: INCL/EXCL again - backup just some directories
>
> If you intend to juggle include/exclude lists around, then I definitely
do
> not recommend that; use two different nodes, each with its own options
> file, instead. Also, your include statements need '\...\*' at the end of
> them.
>
> However, an alternate suggestion:
>
> - For the daily backups, why not define a schedule that addresses only
> those objects you want to back up?
>
>    def sch mydomain myschedname
>       objects="d:\apps\* d:\group\* d:\home\*"
>       options=-subdir=yes
>
> - For the weekly backups, just do regular incremental backup against the
> D: drive. Is it really necessary to exclude the apps, group, and home
> directories? (I ask this as a way of trying to understanding the
> underlying aspects of the backup requirement).
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy
>
> Andy Raibeck
> IBM Software Group
> Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
> Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
> Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com
>
> The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
> The command line is your friend.
> "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
>
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU> wrote on 10/28/2004
> 08:45:57:
>
> > Yes, again.  This is something that never seems to stick correctly in
my
> > brain...
> >
> >
> >
> > I have some windows machines, where I do a normal TSM backup weekly.
> >
> >
> >
> > I want to do a backup of just certain directories and their content
> daily.
> > The directories I want to backup also have sub-directories within
them.
> >
> >
> >
> > Should an options file like this do the trick?  Do you have other
> > suggestions?
> >
> > This will be a secondary options file for just the daily backup:
> >
> >
> >
> > DOMAIN D:                   -- every thing I want today is on the D
> Drive.
> >
> > Exclude                        "D:*.*"
> >
> > Include              "D:\APPS"
> >
> > Include              "D:\GROUP"
> >
> > Include              "D:\HOME"
> >
> >
> >
> > The options for the WEEKEND backup would have
> >
> > DOMAIN           ALL-LOCAL
> >
> > Exclude.dir        "D:\APPS"
> >
> > Exclude.dir        "D:\GROUP"
> >
> > Exclude.dir        "D:\HOME"
> >
> >
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Setting up the TSM scheduler is now an issue.  I need a separate
> schedule
> > for the weekly and the daily backups, but I want it to use the TSM
> > scheduler, so I seem to need separate client names for each.  Is this
> > correct?
> >
> >
> >
> > TIA for your time and suggestions. ... JC