Some of my local GroupWise brigade are just using rsync to a linux
box (and possibly then backing that box up).  They say they're happy
with that.

Tom

On 22 Jun 2004 at 14:12, Hougaard.Flemming FHG wrote:

> Hi Troy
>
> As mentioned by others... you are correct there are no support for
> GWTSA - there are 3 ways to an supported backup (supported by Novell I
> mean):
>
>  - Use a backupprogram with support for GWTSA!!! (... but I guess
>  that's out of the question ;o) ) - Do a "cold" Backup - close/start
>  the GroupWise with the PRE- /POSTSCHEDULE Commands - Use the GWBACKUP
>  and DBCOPY from a workstation to export these files!
>
> ... and then there is the unsupported version!!! - do a backup with an
> OFM (I'll recommend StBernard)... but make sure it's configured
> correctly! And please do notice that StBernard support NetWare,
> GroupWise and Tivoli - but neither IBM or Novell supports StBernard!
>
> Best regards
> Flemming
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]Pe vegne af
> Troy Frank Sendt: 7. juni 2004 15:31 Til: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU Emne:
> Re: TSM, Novell and Groupwise, a menage a trois from hell or a
> polygamous match made in heaven?
>
>
> TSM does not use the TSA's for doing Groupwise backups.  The only
> thing you can really do is backup the domain/po directories using an
> Open File Agent.  You are correct about TSM using the TSA's for files
> and NDS however.
>
>
>
> Troy Frank
> Network Services
> University of Wisconsin Medical Foundation
> 608.829.5384
>
> >>> Steve_Harris AT HEALTH.QLD.GOV DOT AU 6/6/2004 11:26:12 PM >>>
> Hi all,
>
> This one is for Netware and groupwise admins.
>
> I'm looking at putting TSM servers into some small sites which run
> Netware servers. Part of the equation is that they run Groupwise post
> offices as well.
>
> I'm not a Novell person, but I've looked at the TSM, Novell and
> Groupwise documentation and this is how it seems to me.
>
> The SMDR component and TSAFS provide SMS services which allow objects
> to be presented to a backup product. When you run *any* other
> product's tsa, then the product's objects are expressed within the SMS
> object tree and *should* therefore be accessible to any backup product
> which uses SMS services.
>
> As an example, the TSM product uses TSANDS to backup the edirectory
> using exactly this mechanism. However, the TSM client seems to have a
> different interface built in for each TSA - to work with NDS objects,
> it is necessary to specify nds: as part of the name, ie, NDS Support
> has been added into the TSM client rather than extending the general
> functionality of SMS backup.
>
> BackupExec can backup Groupwise objects as easily as any other SMS
> object. I've heard that TSM cannot.
>
> 1. Is it still the case that TSM can't backup Groupwise objects?
> 2. Is my limited understanding of the Novell backup environment and
> its interaction with TSM correct? 3. Is there any way to couple the
> Groupwise and TSM APIs other than SMS? I'm aware of the DBCOPY and
> GWBACKUP utilities, but they leave a lot to be desired and are not
> incremental in nature.
>
>
> Many thanks for your comments
>
> Steve.
>
> PS I've only had the one reply to my post about backup rates for file
> servers. Please, if you have any data, share it.
>
>
> Steve Harris
> AIX and TSM Admin
> Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia
>
>
>
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