Ryan,

IBM does have incremental server to server export at the 5202 server level.  It 
came in
below that but I am not sure where.  Of course you can only use it after you 
have exported the
current 270T, which is a long time from now.

Just because you do backups to a new server, you don't have to lose access to 
the
backups/archives on the old server.  Each client can make stanzas or shortcuts 
that
override the default serveraddress and/or port number.

The TDP products may be more difficult to do than plain UNIX or windows clients.

After the retextra & retonly times
have passed, you can delete the backups from the old server.  You then need to 
export the
archives.

Good luck,

Bill

At 04:48 PM 2/12/2004, you wrote:
>Bill,
>Thanks for the info. It looks like we may have an interesting time ahead for 
>us.  If ex/import is the only way to go I'm not sure if even the incremental 
>ex/import feature, if IBM ever comes out with it, will help us.  Leaving the 
>data behind is not feasible, we need to have 24 hour access to it at all 
>times.  We currently have 3 3494 ATL's with a combined total of around 14,000 
>media 3 and 4 tapes. That would all be converted to the UNIX platform, it 
>would be nice if the new media manager could see the tapes and recognize them 
>as the same.  I may have to see if IBM could look into making that work....
>
>Thanks!
>
>Ryan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf Of
>William F. Colwell
>Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 3:32 PM
>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>Subject: Re: Migration of TSM server from OS390 or Z-OS to a UNIX or
>Windows platform
>
>
>We didn't move any backups, we did fresh backups
>but I will move archives using the server to server export
>feature in 5.??.
>
>The old server had just 20T of data.
>
>Our tapes, 9840's, were not managed by ca1 or any other tape mgmt software.  I 
>defined tapes
>explicitly to tsm.  We are a small organization, which is why the mainframe is 
>on the way out
>not only for tsm but for everything.
>
>You may be able to reuse the media, but you can't transport the backup data 
>from server to
>server.  You will need to do fresh backups or exports & imports.
>
>The library on mvs is an stk silo, on solaris it is and stk l700e managed by 
>tsm.
>
>Bill
>
>
>At 04:08 PM 2/12/2004, you wrote:
>>Were your libraries and tape drives managed by CA1 on the mainframe, if so, 
>>could the same volumes be recognized by the new media manager on UNIX.  My 
>>fear is having to convert or move 270 TB of data already on tape.  Or did you 
>>not move any data from the OS/390 side and just start with fresh backups?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf Of
>>William F. Colwell
>>Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:42 PM
>>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>>Subject: Re: Migration of TSM server from OS390 or Z-OS to a UNIX or
>>Windows platform
>>
>>
>>Hi Ryan,
>>
>>I am at the tail end of a conversion from OS/390 to solaris.  I don't have
>>a document to share with you.  One nice thing that helped a lot is to do an
>>"export server filed=none" to a disk file on OS/390, FTP it using bin to the 
>>UNIX box.
>>On the UNIX box define a devicetype to see the directory of the FTP file, 
>>them do an
>>import server.  You will get all the node definitions, domains, schedules, 
>>copygroups.
>>This was a big help for me.
>>
>>After figuring out how to define a library and tape drives, the conversion 
>>process is
>>a tedious matter of getting each client to connect to the new server and to 
>>do a new backup.
>>
>>Hope this helps,
>>
>>Bill Colwell
>>
>>At 11:35 AM 2/12/2004, you wrote:
>>>I know I have seen other messages about this before, so I hope I can find 
>>>some info.  We are looking into migrating our TSM servers off of Z-OS and I 
>>>would like to know if any one else has done this and if they have useful 
>>>tips and maybe even a high level document of the process?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Ryan Miller
>>>Tivoli Certified Consultant
>>>Tivoli Storage Manager V4.1
>>>
>>>miller.ryan AT principal DOT com
>>>
>>>IT Systems Associate-Lead
>>>Principal Financial
>>>515-235-5665
>>>measure twice......cut once!
>>>
>>>   <http://www.principal.com/>   <http://www.deskflag.com/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>----------
>>Bill Colwell
>>C. S. Draper Lab
>>Cambridge Ma.
>
>----------
>Bill Colwell
>C. S. Draper Lab
>Cambridge Ma.

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Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge Ma.