I'm probably going to be looking at new NT licenses soon -- and if they
think they're going to get this kind of vigorish from us, they're crazy.
We'll end up running NT Backup to on-board CDR drives -- the drives are
around $100 and you can get 100 disks from OfficeMax for the cost of sales
tax and a stamp if you watch the sales flyers. 

I always thought the ADSM 2.x price of $100 per NT *box* was a good fit --
and I haven't seen ANYTHING in TSM 4.x or 5.x that would justify a 500% (or
higher -- would a 4-way box go for $2,112?) price increase.

Somehow I see a "come to glory" meeting with my CIO, my IBM Marketing rep,
my Tivoli marketing rep, and our preferred VAR in my future.

And I *still* want to see a comprehensive, easily understood price list,
readily accessible, WITHOUT registration or a customer number. Discounting
may be customer specific and proprietary, but in this day and age, price is
not and trying to hide it just means you no longer want to sell to ME. I
won't do an NDA on prices and I won't accept an NDA on prices.


Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

-----Original Message-----
From: Coats, Jack [mailto:Jack.Coats AT BANKSTERLING DOT COM]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:52 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: License Pricing


Yes, I just purchased a single processor license, it was $528 or so USD.
The ones
I purchased just before year end were about $218USD.  

Unless new customers are coming in with huge discounts, I think that TSM is
now
priced out of the market.

As a consultant (in a former life) I would be seriously considering taking
my customers
to other products, if I could find one that fits.

I love the TSM concept, but economics is what rules.  And there is not
enough difference
in the technological differences to make up the economic ones at this point.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cahill, Ricky [SMTP:Ricky.Cahill AT EQUITAS.CO DOT UK]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 3:46 AM
> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject:      License Pricing
> 
> Just got a quote back for some Win2k licenses and was rather surprised at
> the massive increase in price, ok I've not bought a license for a couple
> of
> years but this is bonkers..
> 
> single processor server         £391.98 + vat per server
> dual processor server           £783.96 + vat per server
> quad processor server           £1567.92 + vat per server
> 
> Anyone know if a license bought prior to this stupid per cpu idea is valid
> for one server or one cpu??
> 
> 
>        ..........Rikk
> 
> 
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