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Re: Two Windows backup questions (repost)

2002-12-10 11:06:47
Subject: Re: Two Windows backup questions (repost)
From: "Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM" <Eric-van.Loon AT KLM DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:06:23 +0100
Hi Wanda!
Thank you very much for your (very complete) answer!
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-----Original Message-----
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:Wanda.Prather AT JHUAPL DOT EDU]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 16:35
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Two Windows backup questions (repost)


Eric,

The "SYSTEM FILES" part of the system object only applies to Win2K.  This is
a Windows thing, not a TSM thing.  Under WIN2K, Microsoft implemented the
concept of "system protected" files.  Win2K keeps a catalog of all the files
it considers "system and boot files", and they are flagged as "system
protected".  Those files are considered part of Win2K "system state", and
are all backed up and restored as a set.  TSm is just honoring what
Microsoft has implemented for Win2K, and WInNT has NOTHING to do with it.

When you run backups via the scheduler on Win2K, TSM gets the whole
MICROSOFT-DEFINED "System state", which includes the "system protected
files", plus Active Directory, plus COM+DB, plus Registry, and a bunch of
other stuff, depending on whether it's WIN2K or Win2K pro.

When you run backups via the GUI on Win2K, you must specificially select
SYSTEM OBJECT to get a backup of "system state".

YOu can read about this stuff in the "TSM  3.7.3 and 4.1 Technical Guide"
redbook, Chapter 6.  SG24-6110.

-----Original Message-----
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:Eric-van.Loon AT KLM DOT COM]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 10:27 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Two Windows backup questions (repost)


Hi Alexander!
Unfortunately that doesn't say that all files are backed up. My Windows NT
machine also has a SYSTEM OBJECT filespace on the TSM server. However, it
only contains the registry files and the event log. The presence of the
SYSTEM OBJECT filespace does not guarantee that it contains all system
object files.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Verkooyen [mailto:alexander AT SARA DOT NL]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 15:14
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Two Windows backup questions (repost)


Hi Eric,

We did some tests on Windows XP (not 2000). When we
did an incremental backup on a system without a
DOMAIN statement in dsm.opt a file space of
the type "SYSTEM OBJECT" would appear on the
TSM server for this node.

So I think one can assume that the system object
is included by default.

Best regards,

Alexander

"Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM" wrote:
>
> Hi Alexander!
> I know the registry files are included by default, but are the system
> objects on Windows 2000?
> Kindest regards,
> Eric van Loon
> KLM Royal Dutch Airlines
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Verkooyen [mailto:alexander AT SARA DOT NL]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 14:16
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: Two Windows backup questions (repost)
>
> "Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM" wrote:
> >
> > Hi *SM-ers!
> > This is a repost because I did not receive any answer about a week ago.
> > I have two Windows related questions:
> >
> > 1) When running an incremental, TSM backs up the registry files by
> default.
> > We are soon going to add several Windows 2000 client which use Active
> > Directory. I read in the manual that Active Directory is part of the
> System
> > Objects which can be backed up using the BACKUP SYSTEMOBJECT command.
So,
> if
> > I'm reading things correctly one has to issue both commands ('dsmc i'
and
> > 'dsmc backup systemobject') for a complete backup?
>
> In my experience the system object is included
> in the incremental backup by default
> as long as no DOMAIN is specified in dsm.opt
>
> Regards,
>
> Alexander
> --
> -----------------------------------------------
> Alexander Verkooijen        (alexander AT sara DOT nl)
> Senior Systems Programmer
> SARA High Performance Computing
>
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Alexander Verkooijen        (alexander AT sara DOT nl)
Senior Systems Programmer
SARA High Performance Computing

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