Dave, Thanks for your information. I was curious about EMC NAS products
and found what they say about their EMC Clariion FC4700 backup support
with TSM. Could you help me to understand what EMC says about backup or
shouldn't I trust them at all? Thanks again.

Here is the link:
http://www.emc.com/pdf/products/clariion/h711_tivoli_san.pdf




Jin Bae Chi (Gus)
System Admin/Tivoli
Data Center
614-287-2496/5922
614-287-5488 Fax
jbaechi AT cscc DOT edu

>>> dcannon AT US.IBM DOT COM 09/06/02 19:55 PM >>>
The NDMP specification contains a lot of latitude which means that TSM's
NDMP code must be customized and tested for the NDMP implementation of
each
supported NAS vendor.  Currently, TSM only supports NDMP backup of
Network
Appliance devices, although we plan to expand that support in the
future.

The following link provides further information on the NDMP support in
TSM.
http://www.tivoli.com/support/storage_mgr/tdp_ndmp.html

>From previous posts, it appears that the TSM support organization may
have
provided incorrect information on this subject.  I apologize for any
inconvenience this may have caused, and will advise the support team
that
TSM does not work with all NDMP-compliant NAS devices.

Dave Cannon
Tivoli Storage Manager Development
Tivoli Storage Products, IBM Software Group
dcannon AT us.ibm DOT com

-----Original Message-----

Date:    Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:52:38 -0400
From:    Jin Bae Chi <jbaechi AT CSCC DOT EDU>
Subject: Re: NAS backup

Thanks, folks. TSM just confirmed that any NAS with NDMP will be able to
use TDP for NDMP as Jack said. I guess Tivoli makes us spend more $$! I
wonder who should administer this NAS box after configured with TSM with
library. Any expertise about whose responsibilty it would be? Thanks for
help.

Jin Bae Chi (Gus)
System Admin/Tivoli
Data Center
614-287-2496/5922
614-287-5488 Fax
jbaechi AT cscc DOT edu

>>> Jack.Coats AT BANKSTERLING DOT COM 09/05/02 12:57 PM >>>
I think it is for all NDMP compatible filers.  Yes NetApp was a big
driver in the development of the standard, but I think it is supposed
to be 'standard' :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Bassi [mailto:jbassi AT IHWY DOT COM]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 5:44 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: NAS backup


I thought the NAS agent was only for NetApp filers.  Other NAS boxes
will have to backup either through CIFS or NFS.


--
Joshua S. Bassi
IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark
Tivoli Certified Consultant - ADSM/TSM
eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP

AIX, HACMP, Storage, TSM Consultant
Cell (831) 595-3962
jbassi AT ihwy DOT com


-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Jin Bae Chi
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:03 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: NAS backup

Hi, Experts,

We are in the middle of redesigning the backup strategy for network
servers. We will soon upgrade to TSM 5.1 on AIX 5L, which will enable us
to back up NAS device. When I called the support, they say that as long
as it talks NDMP and with TDP, there wouldn't be a problem. We have EMC
Clariion FC4500 and 4700 as NAS for network servers. Has anyone
experienced with NAS backup with this product or similar? I couldn't
find any documentation about what NAS products are supported with TSM
5.1. Your comment will help me tremendously!! Thanks a lot!!

Regards,