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Re: GRR - GUIS -etc

2002-08-19 15:41:35
Subject: Re: GRR - GUIS -etc
From: Fred Johanson <fred AT MIDWAY.UCHICAGO DOT EDU>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:53:56 -0500
I should have added that the first thing I do when opening the WebAdmin is
open the command line with it.  Do the same when I change the TCPPort for
diagnostic reasons.  It has a few other good features, such as bringing a PATH
back online.


Quoting Zlatko Krastev <acit AT ATTGLOBAL DOT NET>:

> Yes, but do you spend so much time behind the computer in your
> brother-in-law's home as in the office. If you spend enough why not to
> install TSM client.
> The only benefit I can see from Webadmin is when I am on vacation and
> access a TSM server from internet cafe/game room. On a computer with only
> Quake/Counter Strike + Web browser HTTPS might help. But if I cannot
> penetrate the firewall - again might not help. Who cares - I am on
> vacation on the end.
> And if I have my notebook with me for sure will start the CLI - faster
> connect, do not need to download all those Java applets, whenever I hit
> Enter my command is sent and result is coming soon.
> Long live the CLI.
>
> Zlatko Krastev
> IT Consultant
>
>
>
>
> Please respond to fred AT uchicago DOT edu
> Sent by:        "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
> To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> cc:
>
> Subject:        GRR - GUIS -etc
>
> In fairness to the WebAdmin, it is useful for accessing my three systems
> from
> my Brother-in-law's house, or my son's dorm room, or a laptop anywhere.  I
> usually use the CLI, but, damn, I miss the flexibility of the GUI.
>
>
> Quoting "Prather, Wanda" <Wanda.Prather AT JHUAPL DOT EDU>:
>
> > Look at all the responses on this thread, and what you see is that we
> are
> > all discussing ways we GET AROUND the admin web interface.
> > That should be indication enough to the developers that the product has
> a
> > problem.
> >
> > Telling prospective TSM customers that "oh yeah don't worry, there are
> > plenty of ways AROUND the limitations in the admin interface", isn't
> > exactly
> > a prime selling point.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kai Hintze [mailto:kai.hintze AT ALBERTSONS DOT COM]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:51 PM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: Antwort: Web Admin Interface - grrr
> >
> >
> > But it is precisely because I _do_ have boatloads of clients that I
> prefer
> > the CLI. I can type "2 or 3 lines of parameters" as someone said a few
> > messages back much more quickly than I can <click> <wait> <click> <wait>
> > <click> <wait> ....
> >
> > More, I seldom type long parameters. I have samples of anything I have
> > defined/updated/deleted that I can quickly copy to a text editor, change
> > the
> > few characters that change, and dump into a CLI session. I specify
> > everything so that if the defaults change they don't take me by
> surprise,
> > and I seldom have to look back to the manuals find a syntax. The only
> trick
> > is when I change versions I do have to go through the list and compare
> to
> > the new Admin Reference.
> >
> > - Kai.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kauffman, Tom [mailto:KauffmanT AT NIBCO DOT COM]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2002 8:38 AM
> > > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > Subject: Re: Antwort: Web Admin Interface - grrr
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm afraid I'm another vote for the CLI.
> >
> > <snip> . . .
> > >
> > > But I don't have boatloads of clients to administer, so I'm
> > > probably not
> > > seeing the issues the rest of you are fighting. :-)
> > >
> > > Tom Kauffman
> > > NIBCO, Inc
> > >
> >
> Fred Johanson
>


Fred Johanson

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