> Also, as an fyi...
> Tivoli also informed us that TDP for oracle on EMC is not supported when
> TSM is running on
> an AIX RS/6000.. Kinda funny huh?  It's actually only supported for Oracle
> databases running on a
> Solaris system and TSM ALSO must be running on Solaris.  Don't vendors
> usually make things work for
> their products first then make it compatible with other systems?  I think
> IBM/Tivoli forgot to get together
> on this one.  And, from what I understand, which may not be accurate...
The
> TDP for EMC Oracle is used
> only for backing up a BCV (Business Continuity Volume - like a ESS flash
> copy).  So, to use the TDP you can
> do online backups of a copied volume... hmmmm... no thanks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Denis L. L'Huiller
> 973-360-7739
> dlhuillier AT pershing DOT com
> Enterprise Storage Forms ->
> http://admpwb01/misc/misc/storage_forms_main.html
>
>
>
>                     J Bamford
>                     <tsmtech@BLUEYON        To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT 
> EDU
>                     DER.CO.UK>              cc:
>                     Sent by: "ADSM:         Subject:     Re: LANFREE
Backups - Feedback?
>                     Dist Stor
>                     Manager"
>                     <[email protected]
>                     T.EDU>
>
>
>                     03/05/2002 05:14
>                     AM
>                     Please respond
>                     to "ADSM: Dist
>                     Stor Manager"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I think a little clarification is needed.
>
> LAN-free with the B/A client does Backup and Restore through the SAN.
Also
> the API client can do backup/restore through the SAN.
>
> I understand there is one TDP product for EMC using the timefinder
function
> that backs up LAN-free, but must restore over the LAN.  All other products
> do not have this limitation.
>
> I say again this limitation is on the TDP EMC/Oracle, and does not effect
> LAN-free as a whole.
>
> Jason Bamford
> Tivoli Software
> Pan-EMEA Storage Product Specialist
> IBM Certified Specialist - AIX
> Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jozef Zatko" <zatko AT LOGIN DOT SK>
> To: <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:37 AM
> Subject: Re: LANFREE Backups - Feedback?
>
>
> > Petur,
> > you say that restores with SAN agent go through LAN regardles of
> > configuration. Is it true???
> > According to doc, restores should also go through SAN. Or is it
something
> > special with Connectrix?
> > Or am I missing something?
> >
> > Ing. Jozef Zatko
> > Login a.s.
> > Dlha 2, Stupava
> > tel.: (421) (2) 60252618
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Petur Ey?orsson <peddi AT ITN DOT IS>
> > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
> > 05.03.2002 09:42
> > Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
> >
> >
> >         To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> >         cc:
> >         Subject:        Re: LANFREE Backups - Feedback?
> >
> >
> > hi Denis
> >
> > if you ask for my opinion i do not recomend lanfree backups, why thats
> > spimle when you do a restore it dosn?t matter if your using san or not
> > youre
> > restore data always goes trough the lan. and that?s bad, then you have
> > lost
> > 75% of your reason to have lanfree backups, because what is here that
> > relay
> > matters. It is your restore time, and that will stay exacly the same.
> >
> > This bug will not be fixed until TSM V 5.1 comes out.
> >
> >
> > Kvedja/Regards
> > Petur Eythorsson
> > Taeknimadur/Technician
> > IBM Certified Specialist - AIX
> > Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional
> > Microsoft Certified System Engineer
> >
> > peddi AT itn DOT is
> >
> >  Nyherji Hf              Simi TEL: +354-569-7700
> >  Borgartun 37            105 Iceland
> >  URL:                    http://www.nyherji.is
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf 
> > Of
> > Denis L'Huillier
> > Sent: 4. mars 2002 20:24
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: LANFREE Backups - Feedback?
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> > We are currently evaluating the implementation of lanfree backups in our
> > environment.
> > I understand the conceptual benefits of sending data across the SAN vs.
> > the
> > LAN/WAN but
> > am concerned with compatibility issues with our IBM TSM Environment and
> > EMC
> > Connectrix Environment.
> > Has anybody implemented LANFREE in a similar environment?
> > Can anybody give some example or insight to real life advantages to
> > implementing LANFREE backups?
> > Are there any tape drive contention issues when a drive gets allocated
to
> > a
> > 'LANFREE' backup?
> > How does TSM manage 'LANFREE' tapes? Does it dedicate a tape to a client
> > (like collocation) or will other
> > clients have access to write data to the same volser?
> > How about attaching a 3590 FC-AL to a EMC Connectrix Fabric?
> > Any other tips would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > TSM Environment:
> > 1 H50, AIX 4.3.3 TSM 3.7 - SSA Disk
> > 3494 2 Frames 4 Scsi Drives
> > 1 H50, AIX 4.3.3 TSM 3.7 - SSA Disk
> > 3494 2 Frames 4 Scsi Drives
> > 1 H50, AIX 4.3.3 TSM 3.7 - SSA Disk
> > 3494 5 Frames 6 Scsi Drives
> > 1 H80, AIX 4.3.3 TSM 4.1 - SSA Disk
> > 3494 6 Frames 6 Scsi Drives
> >
> > SAN Environment:
> > EMC Symmetrix ( 8730, 8830, 4 3930's, 3700 )
> > EMC Connectrix - 12 Switches
> >
> > Client/Server Environment:
> > 600 + Servers (HPUX, Solaris, NT, Win2K)
> > approx 200 EMC SAN attached. (No BCV's used or SRDF.. yet)
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Denis L. L'Huiller
> > 973-360-7739
> > dlhuillier AT pershing DOT com
> > Enterprise Storage Forms ->
> > http://admpwb01/misc/misc/storage_forms_main.html
>
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