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Re: Bare Metal Restore Product for the Kernel Group

2000-12-28 11:21:08
Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product for the Kernel Group
From: Sean McNamara <mcnams AT PJM DOT COM>
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:21:41 -0500
Hi Patti,

        The holiday's were great but very hectic.  How was your holiday?  I am
waiting for the evaluation contract to be signed by our procurement department.
Once I get it, I'll fax it over.

Regards,

Sean

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patti Dean [SMTP:pdean AT NB DOT NET]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 10:12 AM
> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject:      Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>
> Hi Sean,
>
> Any update on the evaluation of BMR?
>
> I hope you had a great holiday.
>
> Patti
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patti Dean <pdean AT nb DOT net>
> To: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
> Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>
>
> >Hi Sean,
> >
> >Bare Metal Restore does not require NIM.   We can coexist with NIM but it
> is
> >not required to run our software.  Since we spoke at Planet Tivoli, BMR has
> >had many new enhancements including HP, Solaris, AIX and NT support.  You
> >can take a look at our website www.tkg.com for additional information.
> >
> >Patti Dean
> >The Kernel Group, Inc.
> >724-573-4414
> >724-573-4410 Fax
> >Core confidence for e-business.
> >pdean AT tkg DOT com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Sean McNamara <mcnams AT PJM DOT COM>
> >To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
> >Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:28 AM
> >Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
> >
> >
> >>Does BMR software still need to utilize NIM or have they re-engineered the
> >>software?
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Sean
> >>
> >>Sean McNamara
> >>Senior Analyst
> >>PJM Interconnection L.L.C.
> >>(610)666-4206
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Shawn D. King [SMTP:Shawn_King AT IDG DOT COM]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 08:28
> >>> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> >>> Subject:      Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
> >>>
> >>> I just wanted to let you guys know, that I in no way think that the BMR
> >>> software
> >>> or TKG are a bad idea, we looked at the product about a month ago, and I
> >did
> >>> mention that when they were here they did mention that they were still
> >working
> >>> on some things, It is the theory of our shop to not go live with a new
> >product
> >>> as soon as it is release, which is why I stated that we were going to
> >>> reinvestigate the product next year, I think that TKG is offering a
> great
> >>> product and our issues were when they were still releasing the product
> >for NT,
> >>> I
> >>> am aware that they were/are working on many changes.
> >>>
> >>> That is why I was offering the contact information of the person we
> >worked
> >>> with,
> >>> there response to us, and demonstration of the product were of
> >outstanding
> >>> Customer Service,  I just dont want anyone to think that we were putting
> >down
> >>> the company or there product (or that I advocated not going with the
> >product),
> >>> I
> >>> am still interested in BMR, But I have also been informed by my
> superiors
> >that
> >>> we will be waiting until next summer after the product has been in
> >circulation
> >>> for a little.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>  Shawn D. King
> >>>
> >>> Data Protection Manager
> >>>  International Data Group
> >>>  5 Speen Street
> >>>  Framingham, MA 01701
> >>>
> >>> (508) 935-4391
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Alex Paschal <AlexPaschal AT FREIGHTLINER DOT COM> on 12/12/2000 04:32:40 
> >>> PM
> >>>
> >>> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
> >>>
> >>> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> >>> cc:    (bcc: Shawn King/IDGCORP/IDG)
> >>> Subject:  Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We're currently using BMR under AIX.  Our environment is complicated by
> >the
> >>> fact that we use DCE/DFS.  BMR is slick.  I'm currently trying to get
> our
> >NT
> >>> group to take a look at it also.
> >>>
> >>> I don't know what issues Shawn ran into, but when we were evaluating and
> >>> testing BMR, we found several things we wanted changed/fixed and some
> >issues
> >>> that cropped up solely in DFS file systems.  We informed The Kernel
> Group
> >>> about them and the changes we requested were included in the next
> release
> >in
> >>> a matter of weeks.  The response/turnaround time was VERY nice.  We also
> >had
> >>> James Wang, the Vice President of Services for TKG, on site during our
> >>> trials, which undoubtedly helped with the priority of our requests.
> ><Grin>
> >>>
> >>> All in all, I was impressed with the product and with the organization
> >>> itself.
> >>>
> >>> Alex Paschal
> >>> Storage Administrator
> >>> Freightliner, LLC
> >>> (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Shawn D. King [mailto:Shawn_King AT IDG DOT COM]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 7:56 AM
> >>> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> >>> Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I worked with Patty Dean, this is her email
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> pdean AT nb DOT net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> She is a Sales Rep for The Kernal Group, She is who we worked with, she
> >came
> >>> out
> >>>       with a Tech Specialist and they worked with us for the day. Let me
> >>> know if
> >>>       you need any other information I would be happy to assist you
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>  Shawn D. King
> >>>
> >>> Data Protection Manager
> >>>  International Data Group
> >>>  5 Speen Street
> >>>  Framingham, MA 01701
> >>>
> >>> (508) 935-4391
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Kovacs, Mark" <Mark.Kovacs AT PHARMA DOT COM> on 12/12/2000 09:08:53 AM
> >>>
> >>> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
> >>>
> >>> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> >>> cc:    (bcc: Shawn King/IDGCORP/IDG)
> >>> Subject:  Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Shawn,
> >>>
> >>>         He have both UNIX and NT servers running in our shop.  We have
> >both
> >>> NT and HP-UX TSM servers, so it should not be a problem.  I would like
> to
> >>> get a contact that can give us some good technical insight into the
> >product
> >>> and how well it works.
> >>>
> >>>         I was even wondering if you can use it to quickly create a
> >recovery
> >>> partition, load a basic OS and TSM clients, and then run a normal full
> >TSM
> >>> recovery.
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>> mark
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: Shawn D. King [SMTP:Shawn_King AT IDG DOT COM]
> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 8:49 AM
> >>> > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> >>> > Subject:      Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi Mark
> >>> >
> >>> > We had The Kernel Group come out to our company about a month ago and
> >they
> >>> > were
> >>> > going to do a demonstration of the product, Our shop is mostly NT, but
> >we
> >>> > also
> >>> > are running Novell, and Digital Open VMS and the Kernel Group Software
> >>> > runs on a
> >>> > Unix Platform, If you have a Unix environment the product may work
> >well,
> >>> > but In
> >>> > our environment, there were too many variables that had to be met
> >(ie:the
> >>> > client
> >>> > being restored, the TSM Server, and the BMR Server all needed to be on
> >the
> >>> > same
> >>> > Network) Our environment had 4 virtual Networks, and it took us most
> of
> >>> > the day
> >>> > the set up the environment for the demo, and in the end, the product
> >did
> >>> > not
> >>> > restore the system, I ended up working that night restoring the
> machine
> >>> > with the
> >>> > TSM product by itself.
> >>> >
> >>> > As I mentioned, I am a NT shop, and the product is not ready for NT as
> >of
> >>> > yet,
> >>> > they kept telling me that day that they were still developing the
> >product
> >>> > to
> >>> > work with NT, and by early next year it should perform better with NT,
> >In
> >>> > theory
> >>> > the product seems like a god send, you are suppose to be able to just
> >boot
> >>> > up to
> >>> > the BMR Server and you are suppose to be able to just walk away while
> >your
> >>> > restore goes unattended. I am still interested in the product, but I
> >think
> >>> > I am
> >>> > going to wait until next year to give the developers of BMR some time
> >to
> >>> > work
> >>> > out the kinks that are still in the system.
> >>> >
> >>> > If you are interested a demo of the product I can give you a contact
> >name,
> >>> > I
> >>> > know that they will be more then willing to come out to your site and
> >do a
> >>> > demo
> >>> > of the product for you.
> >>> >
> >>> > Regards
> >>> > Shawn D. King
> >>> >
> >>> > Data Protection Manager
> >>> > International Data Group
> >>> > 5 Speen Street
> >>> > Framingham, MA 01701
> >>> >
> >>> > (508) 935-4391
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "Kovacs, Mark" <Mark.Kovacs AT PHARMA DOT COM> on 12/12/2000 07:46:17 AM
> >>> >
> >>> > Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT 
> >>> > EDU>
> >>> >
> >>> > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> >>> > cc:    (bcc: Shawn King/IDGCORP/IDG)
> >>> > Subject:  Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > TSMers,
> >>> >
> >>> >         Does anyone have experience with the Bare Metal Restore
> product
> >>> > from
> >>> > the Kernel Group ?  I've seen their information at
> >>> > http://www.tkg.com/bmr/
> >>> > and was wondering if anyone else has used it.  Any feedback would be
> >>> > greatly
> >>> > appreciated !
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> > mark
> >>
> >
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