Does BMR software still need to utilize NIM or have they re-engineered the
software?
Thanks,
Sean
Sean McNamara
Senior Analyst
PJM Interconnection L.L.C.
(610)666-4206
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn D. King [SMTP:Shawn_King AT IDG DOT COM]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 08:28
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>
> I just wanted to let you guys know, that I in no way think that the BMR
> software
> or TKG are a bad idea, we looked at the product about a month ago, and I did
> mention that when they were here they did mention that they were still working
> on some things, It is the theory of our shop to not go live with a new product
> as soon as it is release, which is why I stated that we were going to
> reinvestigate the product next year, I think that TKG is offering a great
> product and our issues were when they were still releasing the product for NT,
> I
> am aware that they were/are working on many changes.
>
> That is why I was offering the contact information of the person we worked
> with,
> there response to us, and demonstration of the product were of outstanding
> Customer Service, I just dont want anyone to think that we were putting down
> the company or there product (or that I advocated not going with the product),
> I
> am still interested in BMR, But I have also been informed by my superiors that
> we will be waiting until next summer after the product has been in circulation
> for a little.
>
>
> Regards
> Shawn D. King
>
> Data Protection Manager
> International Data Group
> 5 Speen Street
> Framingham, MA 01701
>
> (508) 935-4391
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Alex Paschal <AlexPaschal AT FREIGHTLINER DOT COM> on 12/12/2000 04:32:40 PM
>
> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> cc: (bcc: Shawn King/IDGCORP/IDG)
> Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>
>
>
> We're currently using BMR under AIX. Our environment is complicated by the
> fact that we use DCE/DFS. BMR is slick. I'm currently trying to get our NT
> group to take a look at it also.
>
> I don't know what issues Shawn ran into, but when we were evaluating and
> testing BMR, we found several things we wanted changed/fixed and some issues
> that cropped up solely in DFS file systems. We informed The Kernel Group
> about them and the changes we requested were included in the next release in
> a matter of weeks. The response/turnaround time was VERY nice. We also had
> James Wang, the Vice President of Services for TKG, on site during our
> trials, which undoubtedly helped with the priority of our requests. <Grin>
>
> All in all, I was impressed with the product and with the organization
> itself.
>
> Alex Paschal
> Storage Administrator
> Freightliner, LLC
> (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn D. King [mailto:Shawn_King AT IDG DOT COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 7:56 AM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>
>
> I worked with Patty Dean, this is her email
>
>
> pdean AT nb DOT net
>
>
>
> She is a Sales Rep for The Kernal Group, She is who we worked with, she came
> out
> with a Tech Specialist and they worked with us for the day. Let me
> know if
> you need any other information I would be happy to assist you
>
>
> Regards
> Shawn D. King
>
> Data Protection Manager
> International Data Group
> 5 Speen Street
> Framingham, MA 01701
>
> (508) 935-4391
>
>
>
>
> "Kovacs, Mark" <Mark.Kovacs AT PHARMA DOT COM> on 12/12/2000 09:08:53 AM
>
> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> cc: (bcc: Shawn King/IDGCORP/IDG)
> Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>
>
>
> Shawn,
>
> He have both UNIX and NT servers running in our shop. We have both
> NT and HP-UX TSM servers, so it should not be a problem. I would like to
> get a contact that can give us some good technical insight into the product
> and how well it works.
>
> I was even wondering if you can use it to quickly create a recovery
> partition, load a basic OS and TSM clients, and then run a normal full TSM
> recovery.
>
> thanks,
> mark
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shawn D. King [SMTP:Shawn_King AT IDG DOT COM]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 8:49 AM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
> >
> > Hi Mark
> >
> > We had The Kernel Group come out to our company about a month ago and they
> > were
> > going to do a demonstration of the product, Our shop is mostly NT, but we
> > also
> > are running Novell, and Digital Open VMS and the Kernel Group Software
> > runs on a
> > Unix Platform, If you have a Unix environment the product may work well,
> > but In
> > our environment, there were too many variables that had to be met (ie:the
> > client
> > being restored, the TSM Server, and the BMR Server all needed to be on the
> > same
> > Network) Our environment had 4 virtual Networks, and it took us most of
> > the day
> > the set up the environment for the demo, and in the end, the product did
> > not
> > restore the system, I ended up working that night restoring the machine
> > with the
> > TSM product by itself.
> >
> > As I mentioned, I am a NT shop, and the product is not ready for NT as of
> > yet,
> > they kept telling me that day that they were still developing the product
> > to
> > work with NT, and by early next year it should perform better with NT, In
> > theory
> > the product seems like a god send, you are suppose to be able to just boot
> > up to
> > the BMR Server and you are suppose to be able to just walk away while your
> > restore goes unattended. I am still interested in the product, but I think
> > I am
> > going to wait until next year to give the developers of BMR some time to
> > work
> > out the kinks that are still in the system.
> >
> > If you are interested a demo of the product I can give you a contact name,
> > I
> > know that they will be more then willing to come out to your site and do a
> > demo
> > of the product for you.
> >
> > Regards
> > Shawn D. King
> >
> > Data Protection Manager
> > International Data Group
> > 5 Speen Street
> > Framingham, MA 01701
> >
> > (508) 935-4391
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Kovacs, Mark" <Mark.Kovacs AT PHARMA DOT COM> on 12/12/2000 07:46:17 AM
> >
> > Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
> >
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > cc: (bcc: Shawn King/IDGCORP/IDG)
> > Subject: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
> >
> >
> >
> > TSMers,
> >
> > Does anyone have experience with the Bare Metal Restore product
> > from
> > the Kernel Group ? I've seen their information at
> > http://www.tkg.com/bmr/
> > and was wondering if anyone else has used it. Any feedback would be
> > greatly
> > appreciated !
> >
> > Thanks,
> > mark
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