Jim;
        I had the same problem here.  It appears that excludes are processed
before includes.  I have not found a way around this.  I was trying to
exclude the c:\winnt\profiles folder, but include
c:\winnt\profiles\administrators, all users and default users folders.
backing up these folders is a terrible waste of valuable database space.
Hopefully someone can come up with another suggestion without having to
recreate another dsm.opt and adsm service w/backup schedule just to backup
these few folders.  Good luck.

T

Tony Garrison  MCSE, MCP+I, A+
I/T Systems Programmer
USAA
210-913-9836



        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Jim Kirkman [SMTP:jmk AT EMAIL.UNC DOT EDU]
        Sent:   Friday, December 01, 2000 9:25 AM
        To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
        Subject:        Include/Exclude list

        Hey again,

        We've been forced into the workstation backup business and I'm
trying to
        come up with as restrictive an options file as we can get away with.

        The goal is to restrict backups to personal documents and Netscape
        browser and email settings (well the real goal is to have folks use
the
        existing server to store files but...). We've been playing with
various
        include and exclude arrangements and have noticed some interesting
        behavior. We can get it down to where we've got the desired files
and
        folders backed up using the list below:

        Include "C:\Documents & Settings\XXX\My Documents\XXX\*.*"
        Include "C:\Documents & Settings\XXX\My Documents\XXX\*"
        Include "C:\Documents & Settings\XXX\My Documents\XXX\...\*"
        Include "C:\Documents & Settings\XXX\My Documents\XXX\...\*.*"
        Include "C:\Program Files\Netscape\Users\default\*.*"
        Include "C:\Program Files\Netscape\Users\default\*"
        Include "C:\Program Files\Netscape\Users\default\...\*"
        Include "C:\Program Files\Netscape\Users\default\...\*.*"
        Exclude.dir "C:\Program Files\Netscape\users\default\cache"

        Now, if I put Exclude "?:*" at the top of this list, no other files
on
        the disk are backed up but the directory structure is. Not terrible
from
        a space standpoint but could be pretty confusing for a user trying
to
        restore something. If, however I make the top (last) statement
        Exclude.dir "?:*" then nothing but files at the root of C: are
backup up
        !? In other words it overrides all the include statements below it,
        what's up with that?

        Any suggestions other than a whole slew of exclude.dir statements?
What
        I really need is a global exclude after processing the includes.

        This is client level 4.1.1_16 backing up to ADSM 3.1.2.50 on OS\390
2.6

        thanks,

        --
        Jim Kirkman
        AIS - Systems
        UNC-Chapel Hill
        966-5884