Right... and/but the good/new news is (a) there's no LAN traffic involved,
and (b) the current-active copies of files scattered across multiple volumes
becomes consolidated in a single stream.

So, the result is the same as the traditional archive-snapshot running
across the network on any given weekend, but much faster.


Don France

Technical Architect, P.A.C.E.
San Jose, CA
mailto:dfrance AT pacbell DOT net
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: arhoads [mailto:arhoads AT PACBELL DOT NET]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 9:39 AM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: Monthly, Quarterly Backups for a SAP-System
>
>
> Instant archive is not that instant.  It makes a new tape(s) from the
> 'current' full backup of the node and it (of course) does take time to
> make the tape.
>
> Steffan
>
> "Joshua S. Bassi" wrote:
> >
> > This one:
> >
> > > Or is it not quite as instant, and files need to be
> transferred from the
> > > current on-line tapes to a new archive tape??
> >
> > Josh
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager
> [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf Of
> > Jordan, Chris (ELS)
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 8:08 AM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: Monthly, Quarterly Backups for a SAP-System
> >
> > Is the "Instant Archive" functionality really that
> instant?? I.e. does TSM
> > just mark the files in the database that they are now a
> part of an archive,
> > and therefore the expiration processing doesn't delete them??
> > Or is it not quite as instant, and files need to be
> transferred from the
> > current on-line tapes to a new archive tape??
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joshua S. Bassi [mailto:jbassi AT GLORYWORKS DOT COM]
> > Sent: 11 January 2000 15:45
> > To: ADSM-L AT vm.marist DOT edu
> > Subject: Re: Monthly, Quarterly Backups for a SAP-System
> >
> > You could also use the new Instant Archive functionality if/when you
> > move to TSM 3.7 to perform the same type of functionality.  One good
> > thing about using the Instant Archive would be that the TSM server
> > would still manage the data (via the volume history) preventing you
> > from having to take it out of the library.
> >
> > --
> > Joshua S. Bassi
> > Senior Technical Consultant
> > Symatrix Technology, Inc.
> > jbassi AT gloryworks DOT com
> > (503) 702-3371
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager
> [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf Of
> > Bart Colbert
> >
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 5:16 AM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: Monthly, Quarterly Backups for a SAP-System
> >
> > What we do if we want a point-in-time snapshot is to make a
> backup and then
> > export node to a tape for the shelf. That way as the backup
> changes if we
> > want to bring the PIT back we can.
> >
> >      We have even exported a node, deleted the node,
> imported the node
> >      renamed the node, restored the node to a different
> machine, deleted
> >      that node reimported the original node. All works fine.
> >
> >      AIX 4.2.1 ADSM 3.1.3.40
> >
> >      Goodday,
> >      Bart Colbert
> >
> >      ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> >      Subject:  Monthly, Quarterly Backups for a SAP-System
> >      Author:   "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
> >      Date:          1/11/00 7:07 AM
> >
> > Importance:  High
> > ---------------------------------
> >
> > Hi ADSMer
> >
> > We have some SAP-R/3-Systems and we use ADSM und Backint
> for the normal
> > Backups (with Versions).
> >
> > But in addition we need the ability to restore a half year
> or a year old
> > SAP-System,
> > so it would be a good idea to make monthly or quarterly backups.
> >
> > SAP, Backint and Adsm dont have such a function (a simple
> > ADSM-archive/retrieve
> > of all filesystems would have a problem with the symbolic
> links, i think).
> >
> > Any good ideas, and makes anybody such monthly or quarterly
> backups ?
> >
> > Thanks in advice for any ideas.
> >
> > regards
> > J. Zeiser
> >
> > e-mail: johann.zeiser AT brz.gv DOT at
>