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Re: Recovery Log problems

1999-09-02 16:55:06
Subject: Re: Recovery Log problems
From: arhoads <arhoads AT PACBELL DOT NET>
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:55:06 -0700
Wanda,

I'd still set the trigger (for a full) in case your batch job runs into
a problem...

Steffan

"Prather, Wanda" wrote:
>
> I guess it depends.
> I keep the recovery log in ROLLFORWARD mode and it works great.
> I too use it largely because I can't afford the space to mirror the data
> base right now.
>
> The one time I did the ROLLFORWARD recovery, it worked beautifully.
> It hasn't caused any problems once I got the log large enough - it does need
> more space in ROLLFORWARD than in NORMAL mode, and if you don't have it
> large enough for a day's processing it becomes a hassle.  My log is now 3
> GB, compared to a 13 GB data base.  So mirroring the log and not mirroring
> the DB saves me 7 GB.
>
> I don't have any problems with the triggers because I force a DB backup
> every day at the same time.  That clears the log, and so I don't have the
> trigger
>
> ************************************************************************
> Wanda Prather
> The Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab
> 443-778-8769
> wanda_prather AT jhuapl DOT edu
>
> "Intelligence has much less practical application than you'd think" -
> Scott Adams/Dilbert
> ************************************************************************
>
>  firing DB backups at inopportune times.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James SPORER [SMTP:james.sporer AT CCMAIL.ADP.WISC DOT EDU]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 2:23 PM
> > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject:      Re: Recovery Log problems
> >
> >      I agree with Steve.  When the feature came out I thought about using
> >      it instead of mirroring my database but I like to keep things simple.
> >      I didn't want database backups occuring at odd times since I only
> > have
> >      two tape drives and I definitely didn't want to continuously mess
> >      around with the recovery log.
> >      Jim Sporer
> >      University Of Wisconsin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________________ Reply Separator
> > _________________________________
> > Subject: Re: Recovery Log problems
> > Author:  "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>  at IPNET
> > Date:    9/2/99 10:13 AM
> >
> >
> > > I also had to restore my DB twice.  Both times I was not able to roll
> > > forward.
> > > I am also wondering why I bother to set it since it has not helped me in
> > > the past.
> >
> > I run in normal mode after trying rollforward for a while, and having it
> > cause me more problems than it was worth.  I had a 5GB recovery log, and
> > DBbackup's triggered in the middle of the night did not complete prior to
> > the log filling, since client backups were running, and ADSM did not pay
> > enough attention to the more critical DBbackup.  When it crashes, one must
> > extend the log in standalone mode, and my server would then take over 4
> > hours to come up.
> >
> > With mirrored logs, I dunno why one would bother with the problems
> > associated with rollforward mode.  In the case were both logs go bad,
> > rollforward recovery will not work anyway.
> >
> > We live with the fact that if we have to do a restoredb, we will have to
> > re-backup all of the work since the last dbbackup.
> >
> > ...just my humble opinions...
> >
> > Steve (unVMix Systems Programmer/Dude) Roder
> > (tkssteve AT ubvm.cc.buffalo DOT edu | tkssteve AT acsu.buffalo DOT edu | 
> > (716)645-3564
> > ,
> >    | http://ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu/~tkssteve)
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